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This has actually just made me cry

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Memoo · 28/04/2012 12:38

sorry for daily fail link

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MizK · 28/04/2012 15:38

I too feel slightly ill reading that article.
Football matches seem to bring out the absolute worst in men. seriously, the racism, sexism and homophobia that is encouraged is absolutely shocking. If this applause goes ahead then it is another indication, to me, that it has become an absolute rotten cesspit. My DP is a football fan and some of his stories about Page 3 girls being wheeled out to entertain drunken fans, some of the WAGs being heckled and jeered at as they pass, strippers on coaches full of fans - it really makes me despair, especially as the mother of a football obsessed 9 year old who always wants to go to games.
All we can do is to keep strong as women against these morons, and educate our children so that they don't see this sort of behaviour - ie treating a disgusting rapist as some sort of folk hero - as normal. I don't know if even protesting against this is helpful - I think that these idiots want publicity for their twisted 'cause'.
All I can think of is the devastating effect this must be having on Evans victim. And on anybody who is currently trying to pursue convictions against similar men - I bet that the reporting of rapes is going to go down after all this.

IAmBooyhoo · 28/04/2012 15:36

the two men booked a room specifically for bringing a girl back to. one found a completely intoxicated, unable to walk without stumbling girl on a street corner, texted his mate saying he'd found a girl for their use (as if texting to say he's managed to find some drugs or something) and his mate joined them and they both raped her. all the while their friend's filmed it from outside the window. if i was that girlfriend i would want nothing to do with anyone who even hinted at supporting his actions. i just dont understand how she can accept and support him after that. he is a vile human being. his brother and friends are vile, his supporters are vile, the people who have attacked the real victim are vile. i would want to be as far away from all of that as was possible. i just dont understand her.

Hassled · 28/04/2012 15:35

I can't think of anything constructive to say - but couldn't not register my shared disgust. They should stop the game.

It's not just the complete dismissal of the validity of a trial and the verdict that gets me - it's that the fans feel their star footballers are so far above the law and/or are so deified that the only possible scenario is that the woman is a "slag". They're on a different planet - it's beyond my comprehension.

Nyac · 28/04/2012 15:33

That Facebook page is utterly disgusting.

grimbletart · 28/04/2012 15:25

Yes rosy71 - I was shocked if this indeed true. Where the hell is her self-respect? Even if there had been an enormous miscarriage of justice (which I don't believe) and it wasn't rape he still s*agged another woman.

Also, all those writing reports and tweeting in his favour seem to have had a total irony bypass by name-calling the victim. Surely if ever there was a definition of slag, slut etc. it is those footballers, like him, who think it is perfectly OK to have sex with any woman within spitting distance. Someone should explain to these types of men that even if a woman "throws" herself at you, you don't have to catch her. Let them into a secret - sex is not compulsory even if you possess a penis.

FrothyDragon · 28/04/2012 15:21

The rape, I believe, was last year, rosy.

What's even more shocking to me is that one of the men involved in the Justice For Ched campaign (responsible for the FB link) is one of the young men involved in filming the rape. I believe the campaign was formed by himself and Evans' sister, but may be wrong. Of COURSE she's going to protest his innocence.

This is so disheartening. How can people stand by and let a rape victim be treated so appallingly. Oh wait. We're in "Great" Britain. :(

Empusa · 28/04/2012 14:58

I can only hope that they will be the minority and that the majority will protest against it. :(

IAmBooyhoo · 28/04/2012 14:57

i dont know how she could stay with him. even if he hadn't raped anyone, look at what he says about getting any girl he wants!! why would you want to be with someone like that? he makes me sick.

rosy71 · 28/04/2012 14:53

Oh yes, I was also shocked to read that his girlfriend is sticking by him. They've been together 2 years. How long ago was the rape???

rosy71 · 28/04/2012 14:53

I found that completely shocking to read. I sincerely hope it doesn't happen. I'm not sure what can be done about it?????

Memoo · 28/04/2012 14:33

How do I 'tweet' people? I have joined twitter but have no followers yet.

Have emailed the 6 Sheffield MP's and Sheffield united so far.

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IAmBooyhoo · 28/04/2012 13:22

i agree mrsshitty. teh match should be stopped if that happens.

ToryLovell · 28/04/2012 13:21

Words fail me. Disgusting

IAmBooyhoo · 28/04/2012 13:20

i would email sheffield united they shouldn't be allowing this to happen. i'm presuming the game wont be stopped for it? they should issue a statement at the start of the match that no silences or whatever are to be held during it. i hope they are planning on doing that anyway. i can't imagine tehy would want to be publicly connected with that sort of behavior (the silence for a rapist)

Pumpster · 28/04/2012 13:17

www.facebook.com/SecuringAnImmediateRetrailForChedEvans fucking hell, this has made me seethe

IAmBooyhoo · 28/04/2012 13:17

"We can only assume that, despite her intoxicated state, the girl?s decision to go back to the hotel constituted consent in the eyes of the jury."

this line just astounds me. despite her intoxicated state? despite? her intoxicated state is the very reason what both of those men did was rape! how on earth is it still acceptable in law to have sex with a person incapable of standing? FFS why is this so hard to grasp?

Memoo · 28/04/2012 13:08

I have to do something about this.

Do I email the MP for Sheffield? Or I was thinking of emailing the Sheffield local papers, news stations etc. Am I being very naive? These fans need shaming.

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Pumpster · 28/04/2012 13:08

Disgusting.

ToastofWar · 28/04/2012 13:05

And when I say 'raising' I mean both parents, not just the mother.

ToastofWar · 28/04/2012 13:05

Shock. WTAF, am gobsmacked.

Surely this is not about football, it's about some young men's attitudes to women. Having money and attraction Hmm does not make you a rapist.

Who is raising these young men to think this behaviour is acceptable, whether convict or these particular football supporters?

MrsShitty · 28/04/2012 13:04

The managers need to stop the game if that happens. Immediately.

MrsMcEnroe · 28/04/2012 13:01

Excuse my use of the word "roasted," I'm quoting the DM article.

MrsMcEnroe · 28/04/2012 13:01

Or if it is being televised, they will cut to the adverts if the clapping goes ahead won't they? That poor girl - roasted by 2 bastards, filmed by another bastard, and then the whole thing is applauded by thousands and thousands of other bastards.

MrsMcEnroe · 28/04/2012 12:59

That game isn't being televised is it?

wem · 28/04/2012 12:59

Of course, it's bad enough that a single sickening moron has come up with the idea in the first place.