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Footballer found guilty of rape

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margerykemp · 20/04/2012 23:46

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17781842

Ched Evans has been found guilty of rape and has Benin given 5 years. His co- accused was acquitted though for reasons that don't appear clear.

Hopefully this is a sign that our justice system is entering the 21st century, mini step at a time.

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ButterPecanMuffin · 25/04/2012 12:54

I was appalled by some of the comments I've been reading on Twitter.

One of Evans' team-mates has labelled her a "money grabbing slag", as indeed have many other Twitter users, who believe she will sell her story.

Because yes, of course, she's going to lie about rape and go through the trauma of the court case, just so she can then sell her story to the highest bidder.

I replied to several of those making such comments, pointing out if it had been about money, she would have simply sold her 'kiss and tell' story to a paper. I got abuse back from them all.

It just proves how the myths of rape are still prevalent in our society.

AyeRobot · 25/04/2012 12:52

They should arrest them all. They managed to deal with hundreds of rioters in a short space of time, didn't they?

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 12:47

It sounds like hundreds of people have named her though, maybe thousands, they're not going to arrest them all are they.

This is awful.

slug · 25/04/2012 12:45

Is seems the police have finally acted

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 12:07

Oh that's just appalling.

It quite regularly happens that a large chunk of the general public "get behind" violent criminals Confused

FrothyDragon · 25/04/2012 11:56

It seems so, judging by the Justice For Ched tag. Glad to see a large number of people calling bullshit on the people on the tag, though. But the fact the tag is being used, FB pages have been set up in his support, etc, just show how much of a rape culture we live in. :(

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 11:33

I'm not on twitter.
So all these people think that the guilty verdict is wrong?

FrothyDragon · 25/04/2012 10:34

Claims he was a "martyr for justice", and claiming she had lied previously, thus was lying about this. :(

FrothyDragon · 25/04/2012 10:33

It was pointed out by several people before I got the chance to, Sardine. His response was pretty much a "come get me" challenge to the police force.

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 10:27

Did you point out to the person on twitter that he was committing a criminal offence?

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 10:26

They need to come down on all of these people like a ton of bricks.

And look after this poor girl properly.

FrothyDragon · 25/04/2012 10:19

I know North Wales Police are monitoring the situation, but their latest update has said that, as of yet, no arrests have been made. I do think they really need to send the message home on this one, with a zero tolerance policy on those naming rape victims.

I just hope she's got plenty of support right now, from all the relevant areas.

SardineQueen · 25/04/2012 10:13

Thing is

Football supporters can be obsessive
She is almost certainly in a very bad place right now

I am concerned for her safety, from others and from herself. Do you think the police are protecting her, do you think she is getting any support?

FrothyDragon · 25/04/2012 09:56

I'm concerned for her, too, Sardine. I was challenging one arsewipe's views on Twitter yesterday. When I checked back, he'd insisted on naming her to anyne defending her. :(

SardineQueen · 24/04/2012 21:43

This is serious stuff.

If people (women, children, men) cannot have confidence in their anonimity being maintained, then that will hit reporting rates terribly hard. This is a really big deal and the police need to act decisively and these people need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

Otherwise it is goodbye anonimity for victims of these types of crimes.

I am really worried for the young woman who has been named.

KRITIQ · 24/04/2012 21:31

At least it now looks like the police are taking action against those who disclosed the name of the woman.

www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/apr/24/twitter-users-arrested-ched-evans-rape?newsfeed=true

KRITIQ · 24/04/2012 16:45

Some of the comments seriously suck though.

PosieParker · 24/04/2012 16:37

There's a brilliant piece about the tweeting in Sabbotage. here

StewieGriffinsMom · 24/04/2012 13:55

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SardineQueen · 24/04/2012 13:33

Shock @sky

This is getting really out of hand.
I can't believe people would do this.

timetochangeagain · 24/04/2012 13:17

[[http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/cardiff/2012/02/08/man-jailed-for-filming-court-case-on-mobile-phone-91466-30287002/ I always find this sort of thing interesting.

Violently assaulting someone with a wheel brace - suspended sentence, filming a verdict, a week in jail.

KRITIQ · 24/04/2012 13:12

This just gets worse and worse.

[[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9222613/Sky-News-accidentally-identifies-Ched-Evans-rape-victim-while-reporting-Twitter-row.html

Sky News yesterday inadvertently published the name of a teenager who was raped by Sheffield United football player Ched Evans.]]

Accidental or not, the management of Sky News committed a criminal offense in publishing the name of the victim. Is anything going to be done about this?

KRITIQ · 24/04/2012 10:14

Sausage, to be fair, right-of-centre papers have often employed a few token "wimmin" writers like Julie Burchill or Suzanne Moore or such not because of any commitment to equality, but more to inflame and provoke. I wouldn't take The Guardian's inclusion of a regular editorial from Polly Toynbee or guest articles from other women as any indication of their inclusivity.

Where did the voyeur culture come from? My hunch is porn - directly from porn, aided and abetted by the Big Brother reality tv show concept that everything we do is for an audience (and that it's legitimate to watch others.)

Sausageeggbacon · 24/04/2012 09:48

Hardly say Men's Rights when it has Polly and Kat writing for it. The readers though are a different kettle of fish. The comments last week on an article by Kat Banyard shows what type of men the readers are.

Back on track though this voyeur culture, where does it come from? Two men trying to film a rape why are they not in jail as well? Or is the law such an ass as to say no crime has been committed?

MightyNice · 24/04/2012 09:42

the guardian is a men's rights site isn't it?