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Erin Pizzey's work with Refuges

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ParsleyTheLioness · 10/04/2012 08:40

Talking about this on the Relationships board. Does anyone remember this woman from the 60's/70's who set up an early(?) refuge? Are her work and writings still valid today, or discredited at all, anyone have any knowledge? I may not be spelling correctly.

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swallowedAfly · 12/04/2012 10:10

no - just don't pretend something has happened that has not. you've been disagreed with en masse - that is all.

SigmundFraude · 12/04/2012 10:07

Excuse me? Am I just supposed to sit there and be derided? And for what? Because I have a differing view. Put up and shut up, is that what you're saying?

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ItsNotUnusualToBe · 12/04/2012 09:40

Sigmundfraude. If you think you've been personally attacked, please report. If not, enough about you, eh?

SigmundFraude · 12/04/2012 09:37

Too furious to post anything remotely constructive here. When I launch my blog you can discuss bigotry with me there.

MooncupGoddess · 12/04/2012 09:27

In my experience anyone who goes on about how important, precious etc the 'family' is is a) talking about a traditional nuclear set-up, usually involving the wife doing all the shitwork (out of love for her husband and children, of course, so she would never complain) and b) a twat.

sunshineandbooks · 12/04/2012 09:27

SF you don't think suggesting that feminism is destroying the family was a touch inflammatory? Or that women are just as violent as men? Who's kicking who?

The only reason you got a 'kicking' was because you were outnumbered by the amount of sane people who know that isn't true.

If you want to launch a critique about feminism and/or domestic violence by gender, it really would help to (a) know and understand feminist theory rather than base it on untrue stereotypes, and (b) check your facts and figures. If you say something controversial and offensive it generally helps if you can back it up with evidence; otherwise you run the risk of looking like a bigoted fool.

BasilFoulEggs · 12/04/2012 09:25

yes, patriarchy would like to destroy my family too. of course sigmund and erin are right, feminism does threaten the patriarchal model of the famil, which has an appalling record of abuse of women and children. people who support men's right to abuse women and children and adults' rights to abuse children, are profoundly unhappy with feminism.

swallowedAfly · 12/04/2012 09:19

it does really doesn't it? what it's saying to me is that you express opinions that feminists find deeply offensive and disturbing. says volumes.

SigmundFraude · 12/04/2012 09:15

Wow, nice kicking I got in my absence! Speaks volumes really.

swallowedAfly · 12/04/2012 09:11

Destroy the Family Day - has a nice ring to it - how about december 25th for a date? they've already used pink ribbons and poppies so what about a little baby with it's head chopped off or a dismembered penis? bit too much?

my family wouldn't exist without feminism - i dare say my son would have been forcibly adopted - mind you he probably wouldn't have been born as i'd have been married off earlier and had my fertility kept safely under lock and key ownership of one man who i was financially dependent upon.

i like my little family - funnily enough patriarchy wants to destroy and eradicate families like mine. funny that.

akaemmafrost · 12/04/2012 07:19

SGB can you link to your blog please?

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ParsleyTheLioness · 12/04/2012 06:19

Ok, what does MRA stand for please (too early for me)...

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fridakahlo · 12/04/2012 04:45

I was going to come on and talk about how destroying the traditional patriarchy supporting structure of family units was a good thing but I did not need to as SGB has already said it in a far more eloquent manner.
And being five hours behind I hope the rest of you are asleep! Like I'm going to be in about five minutes.

solidgoldbrass · 12/04/2012 01:51

Nor am I really. Am going to go and do one of the big ranty blog posts I have been writing in my head most of this week instead Wink

TrophyEyes · 12/04/2012 01:15

SgB, agree entirely with what you're saying. :)

not capable of any intelligent input atm, though...

AnyFucker · 12/04/2012 01:10

oh, sgb, what you are saying is right

I have a "family" but not a male owner. We are a M/F partnership and our offspring live with us in the same house, but there are plenty of alternative ways to do it that make just as much sense

The Patriarchy doesn't like that idea though, does it ?

I really am going now

LineRunner · 12/04/2012 01:08

Good night AF. x

AnyFucker · 12/04/2012 01:06

that's nice, LineRunner Smile

good night x

solidgoldbrass · 12/04/2012 01:05

Well, about feminism 'destroying the family' - that might not actually be such a bad thing? Maybe? Given that it's an accusation popular with the MRAs and the religious right and all the other fucking knobends - generally what they hate is a sign we are Doing Something Right. When they say 'family' what they mean is male ownership of women as domestic servants and breeding stock, and that is what feminists are perceived as trying to destroy, and, well, what's not to want to destroy about that worldview?

AnyFucker · 12/04/2012 01:04

I am going to stab my husband, after I have stolen his sperm

he looked at me a bit funny

the bastard

LineRunner · 12/04/2012 01:04

I loved a woman once.

TrophyEyes · 12/04/2012 01:02

Goodnight, AF, take care and sleep well. :)

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