"uni lad" and lad culture

Yup AwkwardMary I have noticed a real turn for the worse since the advent of 'lad' (boak) culture. Am mid thirties.

It's not suprising that FB lets that kind of stuff stand and they are keen to delete such horrors as a placenta and women breastfeeding. It's a fucked up organisation.

Natural products of birth = horrifying, rape jokes and inciting violence against = a-ok

It's horrible.

There was pretty well known male feminist whose name I can't remember anyway he pointed out that the rise in misogynistic and violent porn has occurred at the same time as women gaining more rights.

It's as if they're teaching us all a lesson.

Wow, I was do tempted to comment but I don't think it would help.

FB deleted a photo of a placenta recently but shit like this just runs and runs?

Wow those facebook comments are really depressing. What I don't understand is how these men can love women's bodies at the same time as expressing such contempt and hatred for women. It feels like some screwed up "blame Eve" psychosis.

Thank you Cinamon what a bunch of idiots! Imagine if we all started advocating attacking men physically? Imagine what the press would do with that??

Flip we DO seem to be.

I think its more to do with the prevailing cultural norms than universities being 'opened up' tbh.

We seem to be going backwards in terms of how women are treated/viewed etc.

The implication that working class man automatically = sexist oaf is pretty offensive.

There are plenty of well educated, middle/upper class misogynists out there. IMO these ones are often worse.

Unfortunately, the attitude has always been there (I was at uni in the early 90s).

My niece is in her 2nd year at uni, and hasn't had a single relationship, as all the boys seem to be purely bent on shagging a different girl every night.
I admire her for choosing not to buy into the prevailing culture.

There certainly does seem to have been a descent to the lowest common denominator. When we were campaigning for condom machines in the college loos we didn't think it would end up like this.

So who runs the thing? Let's have em'!

That is truly disgusting.

I was at uni only recently and I didn't see that kind of attitude, although as a mature student I didn't really enter into the social side of things too much.

I don't agree that it's a class thing though. Far from it in fact, of the men I know, the ones who are higher earners are far more mysoginistic as they seem to have an 'I earn money, I rule you' kind of attitude .

Disclaimer: I know that's anecdotal and I know not all men think that way, that's purely my experience recently.

I have no sons and wonder if the mothers of this type of boy know what disgusting attitudes their sons display? If so, to what do they attribute it? Peer pressure??

Good God! I swear I havee to get my girls out of here. We will have to move to a more enlightened country! The boys on that thread were disgusting but at least the young woman was standing up to them...it's not affiliated with any particular Uni is it?

I hope the Uni's are aware of how dsgusting it is.

I also disagree about the "class" idea here. These attitudes cross all society, and there are plenty of nice men across all society too.

Interestingly I was at a predominantly male university and the blokes there were as nice as pie, on the whole (science types with heavy metal t-shirts). Never had any trouble at all.

I have found though that people who are "alternative" eg rockers goths etc seem to have much better attitudes generally than many of the more mainstream people. Of course there is good and bad on all sides but still I have generally found this.

The comments are shocking.

It's just that people who one would have been working in factories or building sites are now studying at university (and using facebook, twitter etc' - what an incredibly snotty remark.

Makes me think you are assuming anyone who dares to be anything but middle class is sexist and treats women like meat?

I was a Student in the eighties - there was a real 'rugger' lot who had competitions to see who could drink a pink the fastest and bed the most women. They were all well heeled.

Oh and this comment 'For me golf is a lot like women; if she isn't holding my wood, she should be holding an iron.' means he's a dick wherever he is. Building Site or Uni.

Junior Common Room.
Undergraduate meeting area and social centre.

What is JCR?

I was at Oxford from 1990 to 1994 and there was lots of it. I don't think this is about the expansion of higher education.
At one point, in my very male-dominated college, the JCR committee decided to get the Sun for the JCR. The boys would sit there and make loud comments about page 3 whenever a woman came in.
So a group of women got together and started cutting out page 3, and the JCR passed a motion of censure against them for damage to college property.
Around the same time a group of boys decided it wasn't fair that the college women's group got JCR money so the the JCR voted to fund the 'men's group' with 3 times the women's group funding because there were 3 times as many men as women.
However the JCR treasure was a very no-nonsense woman and simply refused to release the funds....

there was lots more stuff along the same lines. It was horrible.

There are a lot more people at university than there was in the early 90s. I don't think attitudes have changed at all. It's just that people who one would have been working in factories or building sites are now studying at university (and using facebook, twitter etc).

ds has noticed this at university

I do wonder what has happened in the last 20 years to see so little advancement of attitudes to women, and so much that was won being undone.
From the 'Any hole is a goal' attitude of many young men to to being able to spot a female child at 100 paces due to the dayglow pinkness of everything she touches or wears.
WTF went so wrong?

I got a bit paranoid when the F 4 J stuff was going on. I know it seems silly but that's how I felt.