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"uni lad" and lad culture

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cinnamonnut · 08/04/2012 14:08

There was a big furore recently about the "uni lad" magazine advocating rape. They closed their website to "clean up their act" but their facebook page is still so misogynistic :(
This popped up in the activity feed on my facebook the other day. I got involved but ended up having more sexist comments fired at me and in the end deleted my comments to avoid becoming a target.
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=381942055162193&set=a.352663588090040.76923.146505212039213&type=1&theater
Fortunately it never reached 15,000 likes but this type of behaviour is becoming more and more accepted.

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ZombiePuffinsAreREAL · 27/10/2014 15:36

No no, it really is that you posted on a zombie thread. If you weren't so far up your arse, I'm sure you'd be able to see that. I'm sure your deeply researched feminist critique is going to be thrilling and unique, however, it's pretty poor manners to post criticising a thread when there is no one here who posted on it originally. Don't worry, when you post whatever it is you're trying to say, you'll be in illustrious company of men who come and tell us we're wrong.

And did you swear? Such a naughty boy! Was it spelled correctly?

RufusTheReindeer · 27/10/2014 15:32

aemiller

Goodness how rude...

My understanding of mumsnet is that reviving old threads is bad form, my personal opinion is that it really pisses me off Smile

I think what most people do is link to the old thread when they start a new one

I'm not very good at linking but I'm sure if you ask nicely someone will tell you how to do it

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 27/10/2014 15:23

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BreakingDad77 · 27/10/2014 14:51

I was a mid to late 90's ex poly university geek type, was still a virgin when i left.
Girl power what went wrong?

Remember the Loaded and Maxim years and these seemed to leay the foundations for the warped 'empowered women' getting their breasts out for male consumption.

Im not suprised by this - www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29530810 'Sexist' rugby team banned over leaflet 'mocking women' the rugby team at our university seemed full of dicks.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-27292600 - friend on facebook posted something about this as we were all shocked at how high the % were.

About 77% of respondents also said they had experienced some form of sexual harassment with about 46% saying they had experienced "unwelcome pinching, groping or sexual touching".

More of the same - www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-29176844

With the rise of celebrity etc has this rubbed off such that a greater and greater % of the population seek validation of our sexual appeal/attractiveness etc?

Social media feeds this and the Internets greatest strength in sharing information is its greatest weakness in that minority ideas can take form through finding other people to validate it.

TempsPerdu · 27/10/2014 14:11

This is really sad and disturbing. Mine was one of the last cohorts of students to go to university before the internet/social media really took off (was there late '90s/early'00s) and, while there was some degree of misogynistic behaviour back then, it was mostly confined to drunken banter on 'Sports Night' or specific, niche clubs and societies - sexism was seldom overt, and on the rare occasions it became so it was quickly clamped down on by the SU. Now, though, it seems to have become part of mainstream university culture. Sad

I work as a teacher now, and it has struck me numerous times how much more delineated along gender lines children have become over the past decade or so - the whole overt gender conditioning thing seems to be a fairly recent, but very stark trend. Not sure where it stems from, or why now, but I find it scary that so many parents are merrily playing along with it without analysing the future implications for their children.

Agree that it has little to do with class, though - I was at a Russell Group university that's somewhat infamous for its 'Rah' element, and the students there were as capable of extremes of behaviour as anyone else. In fact, I agree with SardineQueen and others in that ime male students from middle class, privileged, 'establishment' backgrounds are more likely to display sexist attitudes than those who have had a more alternative/less mainstream upbringing and education.

MrAEMiller · 27/10/2014 14:06

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LurcioAgain · 27/10/2014 13:54

I have reported our new (and might I say, charming) arrival. Always (no really, not being tongue in cheek at all here) lovely to get a new perspective that we haven't come across here before ever. I mean, it's not like this is the sort of place where people come simply to stir up trouble. They've come for the lovely kittens. And goats. And canons. And goats wielding canons. Wink

MrAEMiller · 27/10/2014 13:45

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ZombiePuffinsAreREAL · 27/10/2014 13:15

Ikr?

So nice of the man to take some if his precious time to mansplain feminism to us silly ladies. Hmm

slug · 27/10/2014 12:22

Bless...

"uni lad" and lad culture
ZombiePuffinsAreREAL · 27/10/2014 11:57

If you want to discuss this with feminists, you could start a new thread, instead of raising from the dead one which was started 2 years ago. Then you can tell us exactly how terribly lucky we all are to have been such a precious window in your life.

MrAEMiller · 27/10/2014 11:50

I know but it only started to interest me since I realised that a certain comedian who now inhabits ITV2 who I dont want to give any more publicity seems to have worked with Alex Partridge of Uni Lad and so I started to wonder this week about the deeper issues ... frankly you're very lucky that I can find a window at all. I suppose it has all passed me by because I dont have kids but I am trying to take the issues seriously ... I really am... honestly.

ZombiePuffinsAreREAL · 27/10/2014 11:40

I know it's nearly Halloween, but joining a site just to ressurect zombie threads is a bit, well, weird, don't you think?

BforBee · 27/10/2014 11:26

mraemiller threads been dead for two years you knob

MrAEMiller · 27/10/2014 11:09

This thread is hilarious.

  1. No women aren't covered by hate legislation because you're 50% of the population. Hate legislation is designed to protect the most vulnerable and I have to break it to you but that isn't women. This is why you get theories like Intersectionality which seek to connect feminist issues to race issues to elevate them to racial issues etc ... there's not nothing in this but the claim that it's "all one thing" is pushing it a bit. The problem is that if everyone is included in hate legislation (and even the Emos and Goths think they're a minority these days) then it isn't hate legislation any more it's just more legislation.

  2. Banning things is counter productive. Trust me I have decades of experience in trying to ban absolutely everything. Beyond a certain point you just drive it underground and give it more credibility. I can't see how none of you can see that it is your university bans on lad mags and soft porn mags that have created the gap in the market that Uni Lad etc now inhabit. You haven't eliminated it you've just pushed it into another arena and made someone else rich and given something seedy glamour
    www.pearshapedcomedy.com/Lads.html

  3. Maybe there is a point in some censorship. Personally I think if you want porn you should have to get it under the counter or use the internet, Burlesque nights can get stuffed or get a proper adult entertainment licence and children shouldn't be allowed into a 12A but honestly people will always find new ways of subverting censorship. It's constant and never ending. You literally can never win.

  4. As to lad culture nothing's changed since I was at University except how much people pay to go there, everyone can see it because of the internet and anyone can promote whatever rubbish they like whereas in the old days there were less promoters because it was difficult. But it is progress and better than the old days when it took 2 years to publish a 40 line poem to 1000 readers.

WidowWadman · 12/04/2012 19:23

I (amongst others I'm sure) reported the picture days ago. It's still there. How on earth do they get around to exterminate any breastfeeding pics asap, but the posting of a nude image of someone who has not consented to its being published alongside some pretty awful commentary is left up?

KellyKettle · 12/04/2012 19:06

I was wondering what his university has to say about it too Zen.

ZZZenAgain · 12/04/2012 12:29

I really wouldn't be comfortable with my dd studying in an atmosphere like that. I suppose in America it is similar?

Surely the university (even with hands tied to some degree) has a responsiblity to protect female students from this type of gender hatred. I should think if the punishment meant being kicked off your course and out of university, we would see a great reduction in this kind of ugly talk. It wouldn't change the way these young men think or talk in private but it could have some effect.

ZZZenAgain · 12/04/2012 12:05

yuck

cinnamonnut · 12/04/2012 11:42

Don't know what it is with men with profile pictures of babies - another one commented on a photo of some girls in underwear & two guys with "dirty filthy whores lol hope u mashed them lmao x"

Nice.

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madwomanintheattic · 11/04/2012 18:40
AwkwardMaryHadAnEasterLamb · 11/04/2012 18:31

I bet his wife knows....she's probably got an account too. Either she ignores what he writes or doesn't know it's wrong. Both sad possibilities.

His wife looked nice and seeing someone in that defenceless way....well it made me sad.

madwomanintheattic · 11/04/2012 18:20

it just really made me think though. i mean, you saw the same normal loving family stuff i did, and it was the juxtaposition of his comments on uni lad and his proud family and wee baby girl that made my teeth itch. they clearly have no idea. frightening, really.

and if all that stuff on uni lad is just bravado and internet nonsense, and not how he acts with them, i just want to bop him on the head and tell him to grow up, and try and get him to understand how damaging this stuff is - for his own daughter as well as all the other women in the world.

AwkwardMaryHadAnEasterLamb · 11/04/2012 16:49

I know...it would have been good...but when I went in to have a nose I saw the pics of his family and my heart panged for them.

Some weirdos come on MN and check out posts...they could decide to attack him or any of the people on there and we're not up for personal attacks in that sense are we.

I'm all for chucking shit at the owners of the site and condeming the users as a whole though.

madwomanintheattic · 11/04/2012 16:12

Oh, ok. Thanks, awkward. Smile x post.

That's a bit of a shame, I was kinda hoping he'd realised what a donkey he was being. Ah well.

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