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Tulisa - wonderful role model

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Lottapianos · 24/03/2012 17:48

Tulisa is feminism's new hero

I think she's been incredibly brave this week. I can only imagine how mortifying and sickening it must be to think that someone you trusted has put intimate footage of you into the public domain. Full credit to her for refusing to be shamed by this. It's probably too much to hope that he's the one feeling ashamed, but he flipping well should be Angry

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noddyholder · 27/03/2012 10:42

She is trying to break in the US where a sex tape is definitely not a hindrance esp in the genre she is attempting to break. She is average in many ways looks voice etc and is using everything at her disposal probably 'advised' by execs. The song is now released and the general gist of its message is 'forgive us for what we dun but we're young' or some such.

Lottapianos · 27/03/2012 10:40

What skrumle and Amberleaf said

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KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:39

BTW, What does the colour of this mans penis have to do with the price of butter?

Maybe it's just me but a purple willy seems to be quite a note-worthy thing. Maybe others have encountered them before, but I haven't.

AmberLeaf · 27/03/2012 10:39

Tulisa is not just a b list singer with a short shelf life though is she?

She was on mainstream sat night TV with the X factor, not like shes trying to revive interest is it.

Doing something something like this on purpose when she has progressed from NDubz to TV shows wouldnt not be helpful at all.

Why would she?

skrumle · 27/03/2012 10:38

"quick route to fame" - i thought she started the band when she was something like 12? how exactly is releasing a sex tape over a decade later when she has already been given the X factor job supposed to help her?

and i'm sure you're right - wouldn't bother me to have total strangers on the internet call me a slut/skank/whore and discuss whether my technique is any good, i'm sure she's loving the attention.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:37

I agree again Noddy. Some very calculated moves are behind the scenes in showbiz.

noddyholder · 27/03/2012 10:33

There is very little difference between socialites trying to further themselves and b list singers who will have a short shelf life. She's not long term level of talent I wouldn't think so quick route to fame is what these people do. I think behind closed doors she is probably not too bothered!

skrumle · 27/03/2012 10:30

which celebrities have released a video of them performing sexual acts and had it "work" for them?

and i'm talking actual celebrities, not socialites who ended up with showbiz careers after the event?

like her or not, tulisa is famous - she is on one of the biggest shows on UK TV, and is trying to establish a mainstream solo pop career. so who exactly is she using as her role model??? there is a MASSIVE difference between having a story planted in a tabloid of a possible romance with someone else famous (or details of your new house) and having a video of you giving someone a blow job released.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:23

A lot of celebs do this sort of thing and it does work for them though. I think this was something she kind of authorised for publicity and it has back fired.

I agree. The song's rubbish too.

noddyholder · 27/03/2012 09:50

The song btw is very good and the whole message of it fits with the 'leaked' footage.

noddyholder · 27/03/2012 09:46

I do feel for her though as when she is older she will cringe but like some woman said on phone in there are so many celeb scandals it will be forgotten once there is something else!

Lottapianos · 27/03/2012 09:46

KarmaK, I can't believe the energy you're putting into fighting this guy's corner! I still believe her. And his defence - 'she started it, all her idea guv' - is pathetic.

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noddyholder · 27/03/2012 09:33

A lot of celebs do this sort of thing and it does work for them though. I think this was something she kind of authorised for publicity and it has back fired. My oldest mate works in this world and sees it a lot. A v well known female singer had a party in her house for people who had worked on her last single. Friend thought it weird but went out of nosiness then said stars people tried to get all of them to 'sell' their story to the press about the house and what went on at the party! Tulisa was in the papers every day in the run up to this re her new solo career and she is in a better position to pay off the bloke than he is to take her on. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually she comes clean (as it were)

PurpleRomanesco · 27/03/2012 09:20

Surely the fact that she firstly denied it showed her humiliation and proves she isn't behind the leaking of this horrid video? Her gut reaction was "That's not me" But when it sadly became obvious that it was her as more people were watching that it was clearly her she chose to make a video saying,

"Yes it's me, Sorry I lied but it was supposed to be private moment that none of you should have seen. What I did wasn't wrong, What he did (leaking it) WAS."

I believe her. BTW, What does the colour of this mans penis have to do with the price of butter? Odd.

skrumle · 27/03/2012 08:38

did you not say further up this thread karmak that he denied it was him in the video but now he's admitting it was him?

so he's lied about it initially, exactly the same way she did, so how is he any more consistent than her? and i CBA to go search but i'm pretty sure her initial denial was that such a tape "didn't exist", rather than "never been made". and she made that statement after checking with this specific ex-boyfriend...

AmberLeaf · 27/03/2012 08:18

Karma, the original denial is whats called damage limitation and TBH was probably instigated by her management, the explanation video by Tulisa was filmed in her hallway and submitted via youtube [so naff all to do with her management] that should tell you something.

You sound like you think women involved in sexua/privacyl violations such as this deserve the scorn heaped on the by people like you.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 01:00

Things got complicated when Tulisa made a big fuss about how it wasn't her in the video, even going on to complain how "sad" it was that somebody would fake a tape of her. She also categorically claimed she'd never made a sex tape in her life. She has now admitted two things - firstly that it is her in the tape and secondly that she knew the tape was being made at the time.

That's why I've got a problem with everything that's said consequently. Her story's just not been consistent.

And I can't possibly say who leaked the video. The OBVIOUS thing would be to blame this less well-known, less well-off guy and assume (without even knowing anything at all about the guy) that he did this because, being less successful than Tulisa, he wanted to make some money or he wanted to sabotage her career out of jealous. But honestly how could I know what this guy's capable of? How do any of you know?? I know so little about him and he's said so little so far. Until this sex tape stuff I'd never even heard of him. I've got nothing to go on. Whereas with Tulisa I do have the fact she's ALREADY told several porkie pies, to go on... I hope that clarifies where I'm coming from.

Tortington · 27/03/2012 00:53

oh he's denying it? quell surprise.

yes there were two people in the room and it hasn't really been to tulisa's benefit to show her giving a blowy.

Tulisa took an injunction out on him and you are suggesting she did this becuase he wasn't doing anything? waste of legal fees then? stupid thing to do - just pay lawyers for no particular reason dont you think?

we are all giving an opinion based on info we have - my opinion is that he's got most to gain and he's a prick

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:47

Jesus Karma you really hate her dont you?

What on earth??

I can't hate somebody I've never even met or spoken to. I just don't buy her story. I also don't believe a fair bit of what various celebrities say. I don't believe some of the models and actresses who claim they eat burgers every day and never exercise. I take the crap they come out with a pinch of salt. It certainly doesn't mean I hate them. I don't even know any of them.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:45

we know he posted a video of her without her permission

No we don't. Finally the papers are carrying his side of the story. He says the video was filmed on Tulisa's own phone at her request. And he's denying that he's the only who posted it online.

The only two people who know the truth about what happened are Tulisa and her ex boyfriend. None of the rest of us know a thing so it's quite funny that we're bothering to actually argue about the activities of two people we don't know. Either Tulisa or her ex or even both of them could be talking out of their arses.

We will probably never know the truth. At the end of the day, it's not even any of our business is it?

Tortington · 27/03/2012 00:37

we know he posted a video of her without her permission

ergo he's a prick

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 00:35

Jesus Karma you really hate her dont you? Now she is "mouthing off" because she defended herslf? Hey she probably deserves it right?

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 00:33

Nyac, the ex is not the one who's been mouthing off so there's not a lot to say about him as we don't know a lot. Yet.

Nyac · 26/03/2012 22:57

But you must have actual commentary about him. You were quick to condemn Tulisa. Why not him Karma?

KarmaK · 26/03/2012 22:33

Her ex says that it was Tulisa's idea to film the sex act and that it was filmed on Tulisa's phone. He also says it was not him who released the footage. This should be easy enough to either prove or disprove.

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