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Tulisa - wonderful role model

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Lottapianos · 24/03/2012 17:48

Tulisa is feminism's new hero

I think she's been incredibly brave this week. I can only imagine how mortifying and sickening it must be to think that someone you trusted has put intimate footage of you into the public domain. Full credit to her for refusing to be shamed by this. It's probably too much to hope that he's the one feeling ashamed, but he flipping well should be Angry

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Lottapianos · 27/03/2012 11:30

Looks like you really are in the minority KarmaK. You seem to be taking a really nasty perverse pleasure in the details of this situation. I'm not sure what you're doing in the 'Feminism' section, looking to educate yourself maybe? Looks like it hasn't worked very well, what a shame.

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KarmaK · 27/03/2012 11:29

Other people's sex lives are not something I feel entitled to watch.

Well clearly if I or anyone else wanted to watch "other peoples sex lives" we'd just view porn films! I watched the vid because I wanted to see if it was Tulisa or not (this was before her confession). After viewing the (BORING) vid I still wasn't sure if it was Tulisa or not. The only interesting thing in the vid was the purple willy. I feared for the guy's health slightly.

Nyac · 27/03/2012 11:28

No. We don't. You do though.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 11:26

The video was very boring actually. But then many of you already know that.

AgnesCampbellMacPhail · 27/03/2012 11:18

I have not watched the video as I do participate in the sexualised violence of others.

It's called being a decent human.

Nyac · 27/03/2012 11:14

I haven't seen the video, I would not want to look at something like this. Other people's sex lives are not something I feel entitled to watch.

Nyac · 27/03/2012 11:13

You wish.

You actually watched this video but then you're slagging Tulisa off for being in it, when you were quite happy to watch her being filmed giving a blowjob. She's saying that she didn't want this video in the public realm. Even if you aren't sure who to believe from your point of view there's still a large chance (50-50) she's telling the truth, in which case you've risked taking part in the violation of her privacy.

It's almost certainly why you're giving her such a hard time on here, because you did something wrong.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 11:08

I think you'll find you're in a pretty small minority Karma.

I'm one of the few here ADMITTING to watching it. The majority will have seen it.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 11:06

KarmaK this will be the first time I have said this to anyone on MN but do fuck off dear.

You need to work on learning to cope when somebody strongly disagrees with you. At present your intellect and ego can't handle it and you resort to name-calling and foul language :)

Nyac · 27/03/2012 11:04

Who else has seen the video here? I think you'll find you're in a pretty small minority Karma.

Everybody else doing it isn't an excuse for that kind of nasty behaviour.

Why would you want to watch Tulisa giving a blow job and then slag her off about it - that seems a bit odd to me. If you think her behaviour is bad, giving a BJ to her boyfriend, yours is worse for watching.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 11:04

KarmaK this will be the first time I have said this to anyone on MN but do fuck off dear.

She lied. He lied. Whats the difference?

Taking my cue from others, I will hide this thread. I certainly wont engage in a battle of wits with you KarmaK, you are obviously not armed.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 11:00

(and he did do it)

And you'd know this how?

The hypocrisy is hilarious. Ranting at me because I dare to disagree with you and because I admit I see Tulisa as a talentless, manipulative wretch. And yet you feel it's fine to villify her ex, a man you know very little about. You'll give Tulisa the benefit of the doubt despite the fact she's told big fat lies. But you won't give that same leniency to this Purple Willy guy. Wow. Stunned and saddened.

Lottapianos · 27/03/2012 10:58

Whether she's a feminist or not is up to her to decide, but I do think that her actions this week were feminist

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MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 10:56

I dont think she is a feminist, I do think she is a victim. A victim of the person who sold her down the river, a victim of the music industry and a victim of the media. Saying its her own fault is normalising it an okaying what this ex did. (and he did do it)

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:54

KarmaK are you her ex or something?

Yes I am. I'm the Purple Willy guy.

noddyholder · 27/03/2012 10:53

I actually like her but think a lot of young women in this industry are 'advised' to go down a risque sexual route to sell their music on the RnB scene. The papers and twitter shouting feminist! are wrong imo She is being exploited by the male dominated industry like many before her Sad Hiding thread now as have work to do!

Lottapianos · 27/03/2012 10:50

I'm the OP and I haven't watched it, I feel ill at the thought of watching it

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MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 10:50

I havent seen the video. I would be sickened to watch such a thing.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 10:49

KarmaK are you her ex or something?

I dont rate the music, but I do have respect for her when I saw the documentary of her and her mother, who has severe mental health issues and she cared for her from a young age. She has been through a lot.

noddyholder · 27/03/2012 10:47

She is new in the US where it is notoriously difficult to get started esp for UK acts.

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:47

That's kind of nasty that you looked at this video Karma. Maybe that's why you're being so hard on Tulisa, to justify taking part in the invasion and violation of her privacy.

Oh right, so nobody else here has seen the vid. Yeah. Right. :)

KarmaK · 27/03/2012 10:45

In an ideal world a singer will have actual talent and that in itself will carry them forward. This applies to people like Adele and Beyonce who've made it really big and actually can sing and in Beyonce's case dance really well too. Tulisa has an average (at best) voice and nothing about her stands out. Her sex tape helps distract from the fact that her solo music is pretty shit.

MordecaiAndTheRigbys · 27/03/2012 10:45

She isnt just this new girl on the scene though. She has been in a very successful band for years and years. I wouldnt be a fan of their music etc but so so many people are. Plus the X Factor? Yeah, I really cant see what she stands to gain from this video.

and i'm sure you're right - wouldn't bother me to have total strangers on the internet call me a slut/skank/whore and discuss whether my technique is any good, i'm sure she's loving the attention. This, is just so very very wrong..

Nyac · 27/03/2012 10:43

I'd feel like a bit of a perv and a voyeur looking at something like that.

Nyac · 27/03/2012 10:43

That's kind of nasty that you looked at this video Karma. Maybe that's why you're being so hard on Tulisa, to justify taking part in the invasion and violation of her privacy.

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