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Are all school nurses now encouraging teenage girls to have the contraceptive implant?

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 16:24

Apparently the dc's school nurse is really keen on them having it, and claims the government wants all school nurses to push it strongly, to bring down the nation's high teen pregnancy rate.

Is this the case in your dc's schools?

I had only heard of it in Southampton, and thought it was a trial, not a new national policy.

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SardineQueen · 16/03/2012 18:33

That can't be true surely that they aren't also promoting condoms.

They should be dishing them out free to boys and girls totally agree with that.

Idohopenot you need to talk to the school ASAP

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:32

I think there is the view that chlamydia (sp) is curable. So just keep testing and treating. Hmm

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:30

Yes, I don't understand why they're not concerned about HIV spread?

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lambethlil · 16/03/2012 18:30

Really shocked. What about chlamydia? Feels like girls are encouraged to be sexually available with no protection of their bodies.

Chandon · 16/03/2012 18:30

This is actually one of those things I would go out into the street for to protest against.

It is shocking.

Fair enough to give girls contraceptive options if they ask their GPs.

NOT o.k. in any way to let a school (a SCHOOL!) make decisions about this.

There are options you know, like condoms.

I think that giving condoms to boys would be a better option.

Burt REALLY, any man or boy "grown up enough" to get a girl pregnant should be made responsible for at least half the cost of raising this child.

Why is it o.k. for men in the UK the get girls p[regnant without having to accept any of the responsibilities? This is all just so fucked up, even Aldous Huxley could not have made it up Angry...getting all the lovely little girls ready and instantly fuckable for the boys' pleasure. No consequences. Nice...

onelittlefish · 16/03/2012 18:28

Wrong on so many levels. This is definitely something, as women, we should be railing against. And encouraging daughters not to have sex at all. If a boy does not respect her enough to wear a condom she should not be sleeping him - end of. Why should a young girl be subjected to the possibility of STDs. Boys and girls should have condom use shoved down their throat all the time and the message of self respect and respect for others all the time. In fact does this happen? Sex education has gone wrong somewhere in this country.

I can't believe it in fact. As well as being detrimental to the young girls in terms of their own sexual health, this is an example of the patriarchal society gone mad. This is entirely a feminist issue, as well as a general hygiene issue.

MyNameIsntFUCKINGWarren · 16/03/2012 18:25

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:22

Yes, Swallowedafly, that's how I feel about pregnancy.

If one of the dd's got pregnant, I would do a vast vast amount to help bring up the child. If one of them got HIV, I would nurse her. But I know which I would rather do.

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:20

Warren, they are no longer advocating condom use as well, it seems.

They are saying "realistically" that may not happen.

However I'm heartened to read that your generation DID use both pill and condom. Does anyone know if kids still do that? (My dc still rather young.)

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swallowedAfly · 16/03/2012 18:19

sorry to say it but this is one of those times i feel glad i have a boy.

swallowedAfly · 16/03/2012 18:17

it is odd isn't it that pregnancy is seen as the worst outcome - realistically you get pregnant and you can have an abortion or have a baby and keep it or have it adopted. none of the options are unproblematic but there ARE options.

catch herpes and you've got it for life. catch HIV and it could actually kill you.

pregnancy is not the worst outcome and making girls feel like they're safe if they can't get pregnant is totally irresponsible Sad

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:17

Yes, I will have to muster support.

Can't have the dds taken into care. Hmm

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:16

Swallowedafly, it's all about patient confidentiality, which applies from age 13. Apparently.

If the girl's parents would oppose the implant, even thought the girl has been persuaded by the nice nurse, that shows they are bad parents. Hmm

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swallowedAfly · 16/03/2012 18:15

i reckon you should raise awareness amongst the parents and then request an open meeting with the head and the nurse etc for a parent consultation. there's no way this should be being steam rolled in on an agenda without consulting parents.

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:13

Yes, honestly - I wouldn't be so upset if I thought the nurse would just - as a last resort - put the implant in a girl whose life was a complete mess which would be horribly exacerbated if she had an unwanted pregnancy.

No, this nurse actively wants our girls to have the implant. She sees them as a good thing.

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swallowedAfly · 16/03/2012 18:11

it's ridiculous isn't it - given condoms can prevent pregnancy and disease and have no nasty side effects and don't involve painful or long term penetration of the person the bloody obvious answer is to drag the boys in and give them free condoms and scare the hell out of them with pictures of diseases.

but no, we don't give a fuck if boys are infecting girls with diseases we just don't want to end up paying for some teenagers baby so stick an implant in her.

ffs.

Nyac · 16/03/2012 18:09

The worst thing about this is that it's not about teenage girls acting responsibly when they are in sexual relationships and going for contraception, it's a group of adults pushing their own solution on to them for their own interests (getting the teenage pregnancy rate down)

These implants have lots of side effects, yet they want to put them into girls' still growing bodies. It's wrong on so many levels.

And yes they could tackle the culture where boys and men are having sex with 13 or 14 year old girls, but they aren't going to.

swallowedAfly · 16/03/2012 18:08

this is shocking. so this would be done without bothering to inform or ask the parents? Confused

are we meant to just go along with the pretense that this isn't a medical intervention that requires consent??

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:07

Maybe I should suggest to the school nurse that vasectomies for the boys, without telling the parents, would be preferable and less damaging to society.

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idohopenot · 16/03/2012 18:06

Well, some kind of teaching about how boys don't always have to have what they want when they want it wouldn't go amiss.

Instead of putting implants in the girls.

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Nyac · 16/03/2012 18:05

I do my best!

SardineQueen · 16/03/2012 18:04

Oooh nyac you know that post is going to be quoted all over MRA sites from here to kingdom come Grin

Nyac · 16/03/2012 18:03

Or, you know, take away their porn.

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