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Use of the term "hamburger" by sonographers to describe baby girl "bits"

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ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 12:31

I've heard this term reported by mothers so many terms that it must by the term sonographers aee taught at sonographer school.

Anybody else feel uncomfortable by it?

Imagine it being said about a baby's bits once she'd been born!

Is it just me?

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hocuspontas · 23/02/2012 20:25

I thought it was because boys' bits are 'hotdogs' and this was just continuing the fast-food theme. Grin

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 20:24

ofgs the whole thing is a bunch of lines and creases, people often don't really even see their babies under the tense conditions of a later scan... saying 'see that thing that looks like a hamburger in a bun' is simply the most expedient way of passing on the news clearly and with a hope in hell of getting the parents to see what they are on about in an expeditious manner. it has absolutely nothing to do with sexism.

and don't tell me i can't see the sexism because i'm too oppressed to see it. it's absent. that's why i can't see it.

ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 20:21

Rita - no ive had friends complain that's exactly what was said "and if you look you can see her hamburger"

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LineRunner · 23/02/2012 20:19

How about, 'Can you see that bit with the three lines? There, that's right, exactly where I am pointing, what looks like three little lines or creases? It's called a vulva, and you are having a baby girl. Congratulations.'

Mind you, my brother thought he had a 'peanuts' for many years. Grin

EdithWeston · 23/02/2012 20:19

The term "hamburger" replaced the previously used "Golden Arches" (which came into use as a term found to be readily understandable to the lay population, representing the three lines of the folds of a girl).

I had always assumed that this was dropped, as it favoured one particular fast-food company. But a bit like "Bennies" became "Stills" the term lived on in amended form.

RitaMorgan · 23/02/2012 20:11

LineRunner - presumably they are saying "can you see that bit that looks like a hamburger?" rather than "and that's the baby's hamburger". I think there's a difference.

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2012 19:58

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tralalala · 23/02/2012 19:53

I thinkit's quite funny.

ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:48

Line runner -I never ever described it as a hamburger (or lemon/banana) but have seen these terms used frequently in books. My colleagues never used them. TBH whilst I agree with you I also think there are more serious issues to be offended over.

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:47

Tooth It's a Viz comic Profanasaurus term.

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:46

Why can't they just say the real words? 'Do you see those lines? That's the vulva of your baby girl.'

Why is ante-natal world so childishly metaphorical?

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 19:45

i imagine bananas would offend on here...

stewie you do realise that it looks like a hamburger? would veggie burger be better, it seems to be the pornographic use of mincers you have a problem with?

ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:44

where women's bodies are photographed being shoved in meat grinders. Confused never having seen hustler, my mind is a boggle

ToothbrushThief · 23/02/2012 19:43

Sonographers use lemon shape and banana shape in relation to a serious neurological finding.

Better? Is it just hamburgers that offend?

I've never heard beef curtain. Yuk. Just yuk.

StewieGriffinsMom · 23/02/2012 19:42

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Shallishanti · 23/02/2012 19:36

yuck

and sad too, that I hear it from women

LineRunner · 23/02/2012 19:31

A bit Viz.

ahhhhhpushit · 23/02/2012 19:27

Thanks for the replies everyone.

And also from a sonographer too :)

What do we all think about the term "beef curtains" ?

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 18:23

Indeed Aitch - I was agreeing with the OP that it would make me uncomfortable, but that was why I wanted to know if sonographers were using the term in a purely descriptive way when pointing out shapes on the scan or were using the term as a name for female genitalia. Which is what I infer the OP wanted to know as well.

Terms used for female genitalia are often loaded with meaning and implication beyond the anatomical, which is why I think it could be an issue to some of us more sensitive souls.

However, worley said in her experience "hamburger" is used as a description for the shape as seen on a scan not the genital area itself, in which case no, I don't think it is an issue.

RitaMorgan · 23/02/2012 14:42

Baby girl genitals look like a hamburger on a scan.

They don't look like a hamburger in real life.

Not seeing the issue.

AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 23/02/2012 14:40

well maybe don't get anyone's knickers in a twist just yet, immaculada, because aaahhhhhpushit has only concluded that this is what people are saying based on what mothers (who are presumably not disgusted by their own genitalia) are saying.

4madboys · 23/02/2012 14:25

when i had a scan at 28wks with dd, (to check the sex as we didnt believe the 20wk scan) the sonographer showed us her 'girly bits' and said its the three lines 'that look like a hamburger' and they did tbf. obviously she didnt say thats what they were but just to show us clearly on the scan. tbh the whole thing just felt a bit wierd, looking at her private parts before she was born and in 3d felt a bit wrong somehow, i dont know why. interestingly dd obviousl didnt feel like co-operating and kept her hands over her face for the entire scan, so they didnt make us pay! which was nice and i STILL didnt believe that she was a girl until she was born and i coudl check for myself Blush

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 14:16

Thanks for clarifying, worley

worley · 23/02/2012 14:10

at sonographer school we're not taught to use the term hamburger to describe girls genitals. but trying to explain to the many parents who want to know what we are looking for and how we know, that's the easiest visual aid to use. some people cannot see the three lines even though we are pointing them out.
I've not heard if boys bits being called a third leg though.
of course once a baby is born it looks nothing like a hamburger so it wouldn't be described in that way.

InmaculadaConcepcion · 23/02/2012 14:07

What it looks like is one thing. What it is is another.

Do sonographers say: "There's the hamburger - you're having a girl!" or do they say "See that shape there that looks like a hamburger? That tells us you're having a girl".

Personally, I would be uncomfortable if a sonographer used "hamburger" as a slang for a girl's genitalia instead of the correct anatomical terms, whatever it may look like on a scan. There seems to be at best discomfort about female genitalia and at worst revulsion. Unlike the glorifying that goes on about the male penis (and yes, I know there are many jokey terms for a penis too, but is it only me who detects a different feeling behind the way female genitals are referred to?)

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