Attitudes to sex: is it maybe a cultural thing?

KRITIQ, have you read the jizzin face thread? It infuriates me that I am not a seen as a 'real feminist' because of the sexualpractices I enjoy, to be quite honest. There are some posters on that thread who DO come across as dreadful prudes, I'm afraid. I am not attacking feminism frrudishness, because I am a feminist, but fucking hell, there are some sad attitudes toward sex on that thread.

Ah ha, so thats how it is all categorised here, then. Youre either rad fem or just a sily, fluffy Porn-defender. Good to know.

Swallowed: the variation you'll get is between funfemproporn types and real radfems.

      I think my Doctor prescribed funfemproporn for me when I had a bad back.

I'd actually suggest that culturally in general, Germany and the rest of Northern Europe are much closer in social and political values to the UK than any of them are to the USA (which is where I grew up.) I certainly noticed a more liberal attitude to sex in general in Europe than in the US.

I've always found it curious though that many folks seem to believe feminists have puritanical attitudes towards sex. They may oppose things like sexualisation of children or women selling sex, but not for reasons of morality - for reasons of the harm caused to women and children by these things. I don't see why it's such a difficult concept to get.

given all of the mentioned countries are patriarchies and feminists see the personal as political (including sexual preferences and practices) i'm thinking views would be the same.

the variation you'll get is between funfemproporn types and real radfems.

People can't resist cultural comparisons, but if you want to be serious about something, it's dangerous unless you're multicultural enough to have a full understanding of the places you're talking about. Otherwise we seem to fall into stereotypes, and we might end up being called insensitive or even racist. Maybe attitudes towards sex or feminism are different in Britain versus Germany (or versus anywhere) but before I'd trust anyone to explain it, I'd want an idea of how much they really knew, and how much insight they could really put into it.

Let's have a joke that goes "There was an Englishwoman, an Irishwoman and a Scotswoman, and they..."

I'm not too sure what you mean lollygag.

I just mean that when discussing porn, for example, the feminists I know will refer to hardcore acts/violence without needing their smelling salts.

Beachcomber:'My feminist friends will talk about ass to mouth, facials, double penetration, anal gaping, etc.'

I don't know what the fuss is about.It's probably the sort of stuff our parents got up to when we were at aunty Jen's for the weekend.

It's not clear from OP if you intend this to be a discussion of pretty minor differences in sexual preference within the highly privileged first world community.

Or if you want to look at the differences - not just cultural but also economic - of communities across the globe.

To clarify, my British friends are from a big city, my French friends are from a rural area - this may be related to how taboo or not discussions about sex are considered.

WW I think people are a bit at this thread because it seems to be invoking the 'feminists are prudes' stereotype.

Which is generally considered by feminists to be ad hominen.

In answer to your question, I'm British but I live in France. My British friends talk more openly about sex than my French friends.

My feminist friends, be they Brits or French, speak very openly about sex and very few, if any subjects are taboo. My feminist friends will talk about ass to mouth, facials, double penetration, anal gaping, etc. They will be talking about these things within the context of a political discussion from a feminist perspective however.

I suspect that most of my friends who don't discuss feminism, don't even know what most of the above practices are or even that they exist.

I'm confused about the origins of the question. I asked you on the other thread, but you were probably occupied with starting this one, which is fair enough.

Are you asking whether in our experience British feminists are less open or more repressed about sex than feminists from other North European countries?

Or are you conflating a dislike of porn and sexual practices that many of us believe are derived from porn, with a repressed attitude to sex?

If it's the former, IME that is a cultural stereotype that has no basis in the reality of my interactions with feminists from other North European countries.

If it's the latter, I think that conflation is another myth and unhelpful stereotype.

If the question is something different, can you explain further?

I don't understand the question, but it is late.
Watch Jeremy Kyle on uk tv, I think you'll find all the answers. It's all they talk about.

Did you just want to talk about sex again, WW ?

Inserting the random word "feminist" somewhere doesn't necessarily make it a feminism topic-worthy topic.

Perhaps "_chat" is a more appropriate arena ?