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not sure what to title this but it's to do with ejaculation

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YuleingFanjo · 15/02/2012 10:59

and in particular a man ejaculating on a woman's face. Sorry - I feel awful writing it down.

I was talking to a friend last night, she is much nore sexually adventurous than I am and she was saying that she thought it was part of normal sexual behaviour, that most men found it a turn on and most people she knew thought it was normal.

I argued that it was something that came from porn, was not what I would call normal and there was no equivilant sexual 'thing' for a woman to do to a man. She said that women can 'gush' (I have never done this, maybe I am abnormal) or piss or poo (!) which I pointed out was a totally different thing. But is it?

I was trying to discuss it with her and point out that her sexual encounters are out of the norm, definitely aren't encounters within a loving relationship, and that ejaculating in someones's face is surely more about disrespect than anything else?

or am I wrong. I just find it really horrible and if anyone asked me to let them do so I would show them the door.

Soory - I hope I don't sound like some hairy trucker trying to get off on the whole thing, and I am not asking for personal experiences (I would prefer not to read them thanks) but more to discuss if I am right about the power/porn/disrespect thing...

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yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 21:07

You weren't asking for justification but that's how it would end up coming across and I don't really feel like having my personal sexual feelings dragged over the coals by the holier-than-thou crowd this evening.

YuleingFanjo · 16/02/2012 21:06

sorry. Didn't mean to offend.

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YuleingFanjo · 16/02/2012 21:05

I wasn't asking for justification. I was just interested but it's ok.

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yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 21:01

What does it matter what I personally enjoy about it? What do people enjoy about anything sexual? I enjoy it, full stop. I don't feel like I need to justify that.

AyeRobot · 16/02/2012 21:00

the menz?

YuleingFanjo · 16/02/2012 20:59

May I ask... what do you enjoy about it?

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yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:58

Marketed by one person, Malificence. It doesn't really make sense to say "well that's what this women says other women want, so that's obviously what they want".

Plenty of women on this thread have said they enjoy being ejaculated on. Why are trying to deny that experience, or make out that we are somehow deluded?

Malificence · 16/02/2012 20:56

It's interesting to me that Petra Joy won't have images of men ejaculating on women in her films, which are marketed as being indicative of womens' sexual desires and fantasies.

YuleingFanjo · 16/02/2012 20:55

Have to laugh about telling people to stay on topic Grin
I am not sure many people understand what the topic is - my bad.

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AyeRobot · 16/02/2012 20:53

Oh, is there just enough "treat women like shit" stuff in there to keep hubby happy whilst you watch it together? Great stuff.

yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:52

I don't think that being narky at each other and mocking what other women find sexually exciting or progressive will help us either, TBE.

TBE · 16/02/2012 20:50

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yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:49

I don't think that this is helpful, Beachcomber, why don't we just stay on topic?

AyeRobot · 16/02/2012 20:48

Haven't decided what I think on that yet, WW. Fairly sure it's about as niche as films about sex whilst up a tree, though, in global terms. Why that might be is anyone's guess. Want to have a stab?

What do you think about the attitude of men to facial spunking, WW
? Not what they've told you, but what they have said to each other.

Beachcomber · 16/02/2012 20:48

Yellowraincoat this is a supposed feminist/women's right's discussion board.

You got pissed off earlier because you felt things were too personal/judging of your personal values.

Now you are pissed off because I am trying to make things less personal.

Make your mind up.

I'm not trying to silence anybody, I'm just engaging in a little feminist analysis. (What with this being a feminist board and all).

YuleingFanjo · 16/02/2012 20:44

"op chill out it is a bit of spunk on the face not a full on porn film, or though she may like doing those too for her OH, what they do is actually nothing to do with you !"

  1. she doesn't have an OH
  1. I am not talking about just 'a bit of spunk on the face' the question I am asking is wider than that.
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yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:43

I think I clearly didn't mean fake in that way. I mean that they are not the same as sex in real life. You know, in the same way that in Hollywood films everything is always fine and your feminist sisters don't bitch at you.

HTH.

Beachcomber · 16/02/2012 20:42

Yellowraincoat, things in porn are real. They are not fake.

Those women really are being come on/drinking semen/being called whores/being doubly penetrated/putting penises in their mouths that have just been in their anuses/chocking/having their hair pulled/gagging/being humiliated for entertainment/having their distress filmed and exploited for entertainment.

And people jack off to this.

HTH.

WidowWadman · 16/02/2012 20:41

All porn? What about porn made by women with a female audience in mind?

topknob · 16/02/2012 20:38

op chill out it is a bit of spunk on the face not a full on porn film, or though she may like doing those too for her OH, what they do is actually nothing to do with you !

yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:38

God BeachComber, so so-rray that we're not political enough for you.

Way to silence a group.

yellowraincoat · 16/02/2012 20:37

I don't find it at all aggressive or dominating when my partner does that. Why would I? He's not aggressive to me in any other way, so why would this one act be an aggressive one?

AyeRobot · 16/02/2012 20:36

That wasn't necessary.

Beachcomber · 16/02/2012 20:36

Gosh I must say I don't like it when these sorts of threads get into oversharing about one's personal private sexual practices, which are as irrelevant as they are derailing to a wider political discussion.

We need to be examining the power dynamic in male female relations, sexual or otherwise, not whether we can squirt and our DPs love lapping it up.

Sorry but I'm Hmming. (Because this is the feminist section of MN)

Malificence · 16/02/2012 20:34

Perhaps I am a bit sheltered Notsusan, my only sexual experience is with my husband of nearly 30 years and I'm obviously only relating my own experiences and opinions, but I do see a man deliberately ejaculating in a woman's face as an aggressive and dominating act, which is fine. if that's what you both enjoy. As I said upthread, I really enjoy spanking and rough sex and I don't like it one little bit when someone tells me it's wrong and a bit worrying, as happened on this very board by a couple of regular female posters, one of whom is no longer here throwing her radfem weight around.

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