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Is it possible for men to carry out valid feminist research?

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AgentZigzag · 29/01/2012 18:06

I just came across this article, which said it's wrong to ask the question of whether men can carry out feminist research because it's desirable for men to carry out anit-patriarchal and pro-feminist research, but if it proves difficult for them 'they must hand over control of the design and carrying out of 'their' research to the critical reference group of women'.

'No doubt, feminist research is research ?on? women, ?for? women, ?about women? but not only by women.'

Why encourage men to be involved in feminist research for reasons of equality, but advise the design and data gathering to women?

That's not equality is it?

If men are deemed fit to carry out feminist research then they're fit to carry it out aren't they?

You don't have to have first hand experience of a subject in order to research it, so are women a necessary constituent of valid feminist research?

(just to clarify without directing how posters can answer, I'm aware the article can be ripped to pieces critically evaluated, but I was more interested in the ideas it put forward rather than what evidence those ideas rest on IYSWIM)

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joanofarchitrave · 29/01/2012 18:33

But what difficulty is the author talking about? Why difficult for men? At what point should the difficulty be considered a barrier to continuing with research? In what universe is a person going to hand over their (for example) PhD project to somebody else, saying 'sorry this is just too hard due to my testosterone levels - you finish it?'

It's the quality of the ideas, or lack of, that means I don't really want to engage with it.

AgentZigzag · 29/01/2012 18:31

That's interesting Beta, how does the funding usually work with research?

Do you approach whoever's funding it with an idea, or do they define what they want researched and set about finding researchers?

I'm just thinking about how that might shape what research subjects get onto the agenda.

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MoreBeta · 29/01/2012 18:31

"However, there are other male researchers who are totally biased and try enforcing patriarchy through their findings."

That is quite a strong assertion and not backed up by any references or research evidence.

AgentZigzag · 29/01/2012 18:28

That's what I wanted to avoid joan, it may well be a sixth-form essay I can't make it out, but it's the ideas that interested me rather than the credibility of the author.

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joanofarchitrave · 29/01/2012 18:23

'this may prove difficult for men'?

Hmm

Is this a sixth-form essay?

MoreBeta · 29/01/2012 18:21

Valar - positing an opinion is not academic research. Forming a theory and then testing it is what academic research is about - not just writing your untested opinions down.

MoreBeta · 29/01/2012 18:19

I am a man and have done academic research at a high level. Not feminist research but my research methods, statistical tests and presentation of my findings in the form of research papers always had to be reviewed by peer group researchers before it could be published.

Academic research is reviewed 'blind' and it either passes fit for publication or it doesn't. The sex of the researcher never comes into it. I don't see why feminist research should be any different.

ValarMorghulis · 29/01/2012 18:16

I think that a man can of course collate information on feminism, he could research statistics and publish papers based on those facts.

he cannot though opine about feminism as whilst he may be sympathetic to the "cause" he cannot possibly truly understand what it is like to be the "weaker sex" in a patriarchal society.
imho

It's a bit like me, a heterosexual woman writing information on th eeffects of homophobia on gay men. Whilst i could interview and have empathy for what they must surely go through, i can't tell them how they should feel or how best to deal with it. iyswim.

ClothesOfSand · 29/01/2012 18:16

I don't think all feminist research is about women.

Robert Jensen has said that a lot of universities will focus teaching on the experiences of oppressed groups but not on the experiences of the oppressing group. There is very little discussion on what it feels like to belong to a group that does the oppressing or how they behave amongst themselves to enable that oppression.

I think some men could be very well equipped to carry out feminist research because they have a lot of insight into what it means to be a man and how men as a group behave and organise themselves.

I am sure that most of us as women also belong to another group that hold certain sorts of power. I would like more research carried out into how those groups operate because it would give me greater understanding of how to change the situation rather than just making it out it was a bad thing or constantly discussing the behaviour and responses of the group who were oppressed.

While as women we have to work to get rid of misogyny, that doesn't mean that how misogyny happens can be fully understood by reference by us to our lives.

AgentZigzag · 29/01/2012 18:07

Oops, posted instead of previewed, 'scuse the typos Blush

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