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Rape is worse when it happens to men

114 replies

AyeRobot · 28/01/2012 21:53

According to the New York Times

Luckily, there are some brilliant women around to help the NYT out

Yes, the Patriarchy hurts men too. Why can't they just say that? Then there could be some useful public debate about what to do about it.

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edam · 29/01/2012 10:51

but that's the point, widow - people are objecting to an article claiming men have it worse.

WidowWadman · 29/01/2012 10:49

Charlotteperkins - is that so? I wouldn't be surprised if there was an even bigger stigma attached to being raped if you're a man, than if you're a woman.

I don't think that it's particularly useful to try and see whether men or women have it worse when it comes to being raped or experiencing violence.

Charlotteperkins · 29/01/2012 10:21

People believe men who say they've been raped. That's the difference.

Grumpla · 29/01/2012 10:15

Good follow-up article and some amazing comments on there too.

Given this and some of its other recent fails in reporting sexual violence against women and girls, i must say that the New York Times makes me proud not to be an American.

Mind you I'd be deluding myself if I thought the same attitudes weren't endemic in the UK as well.

msrisotto · 29/01/2012 09:55

Women are not more likely to find sympathy I agree Basil. Even 12 year old girls are told they were asking for it by dressing provocatively etc.

BasilRathbone · 29/01/2012 09:42

I don't think a woman is more likely to receive sympathy actually.

I think women are often met with scepticism and blame. "Are you sure he didn't know you didn't want to?" "Do you think he realised you weren't up for it?" "He's such a nice guy, I'm sure he'd hate to think he'd caused you any pain, it must have been a misunderstanding", "But why did you let him in? You must have known what he was after?"

Hence the reason the majority of rape victims, don't ever tell anyone they've been raped, except a rape crisis line years later or an anonymous researcher.

Archemedes · 29/01/2012 08:53

I could see that a man is more likely to be treat mockingly by his peers for being raped , a woman is more likely to receive sympathy/compassion.

but other than that I can't see why its worse.

messyisthenewtidy · 28/01/2012 23:47

Really agreed with the follow up article. The comment by Loup Loup Garou summed up what was so misogynistic about the original article.

ledkr · 28/01/2012 23:30

Sorry for slight hijack but i keep seeing this man on tv who had all these wounds inflicted by a woman but what i dont get is that i used to be so terrified that id have run down the rd naked had i been able to get away and certainly wouldnt have sat on the sofa whilst the kettle was boiling knowing what was coming.
Obviously rape isnt a biggy for us as we are already used to it Shock

BasilRathbone · 28/01/2012 23:24

Of course it's worse for men.

They're real human beings.

Have you learned nothing?

Grin
AnyFucker · 28/01/2012 23:23

yes, led

because DV against men threatens their manhood, but for women it's just part of being a woman, isn't it ?

ledkr · 28/01/2012 23:20

Its a bit like the men for whom domestic violence is worse Hmm it may be the same (ALTHOUGH AS A VICTIM IM NOT CONVINCED) but its not bloody worse is it?

AnyFucker · 28/01/2012 23:16

Great post, Aye

BasilRathbone · 28/01/2012 23:10

Thanks for posting this Aye and for the follow up article, which encapsulated everything I felt about the original.

It is a brilliant deconstruction of it, isn't it

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