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Raising feminist children

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YuleingFanjo · 03/01/2012 14:00

Hi there...

Sorry if this has been done before - if so can you direct me to any threads?

I am basically wanting to find out about blogs and articles and so on about raising children (in particular sons) in a feminist way.

Basically I am just finding myself getting angrier and angrier about the way women are persuaded to cut themselves up, inject themselves and so on in the name of beauty. A friend of mine rather depressingly told me that she slept with a 50 year old man who had never slept with a woman with pubic hair! That she has slept with men who have shaved all theirs off! I am just open-mouthed that we live in a society where this is now the norm, that women will accept the gift of a boob job as a birthday present!

I don't want my son to grow up thinking all this is normal, I want him to have the right kind of influences so that when he is older he doesn't become one of those who think this is all normal.

do I make any sense? I just feel really angry about it and think I have a responsibility towards him to educate him the right way.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 03/01/2012 18:07

"its just with schools, influences of other people, toys etc I'd be more Hmm"

What you'll find is that 'schools, other people, toys etc' are talking to your child about every single subject under the sun. Try to think less about instilling messages and more about exploring opinions. Children are just small people. They have ideas on subjects that may be different to ours and they are entitled to challenge our ideas as much as we can challenge theirs. I've never consciously discussed my thoughts on religion with my DS for example, but he's attended church services, learned about religions at school etc. I had a feeling he was really into it. But he reaches the grand old age of 11yo, gets a piece of RE homework on constructing arguments why god does or doesn't exist.... and, to my immense relief, turns out to be as big an atheist as I am. :)

PamBeesly · 03/01/2012 17:24

I've nothing to add but would like to sign up to any discussion about raising boys as feminists, I'm due a son in 7 weeks. I hope the messages we will instill in him will give him a good sense of fairness, equality etc its just with schools, influences of other people, toys etc I'd be more Confused - I'm confused about all aspects of parenting though and haven't a clue about anything.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 03/01/2012 16:09

I don't think you need books. Your son will be hit with all kinds of conflicting messages about what is OK where women are concerned but, ultimately, his main role models for how men and women should behave and relate to each other will be you and his father. You are by far and away his biggest and most important influence. You will not only be challenging ideas he hears about regarding women as he grows up but all kinds of other moral and ideological questions.

But beware.... discuss rather than dictate because evangelising tends to backfire. Lost count of the number of friends I have who had (pick one) laid-back 'cool' parents but who are strict disciplinarians; very religious parents but who are confirmed atheists; very steady monogamous parents but who are on their third marriage....

GrimmaTheNome · 03/01/2012 15:32

Good for you. I've noticed mothers-of-boys tend to be the worst for buying pale pink clothes, barbies and bratz dolls for girl children! Glad you won't be doing that Grin

I don't know of any resources - seems to me a lot of it is commonsense. Challenging stereotypes as they rear their ugly heads. Perhaps it helps to have a stock of examples to counter the 'girls can't do...' type crap.

(breadstick - I think most sane people regard blue as gender neutral - its about the most common colour for girl's school uniforms. It never occurred to me that DDs magnadoodle was the 'boy' one.)

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TheBreadstick · 03/01/2012 15:01

I would have to say 'lead by example' which I'm sure you will. There is so much shite out there that keeping children away from archaic ideas and gender stereotypes will be impossible.

I'm currently expecting my first child - we haven't found out the sex - I also have a DSD (age 5) - and I'm increasingly overwhelmed by the gender stereotyping and poor messages delivered to such young children whether they are boys or girls. From the fact that I can't buy what I consider a gender-neutral toy such as a keyboard, post office or magna-doodle in yellow, red or green - they're all bloody pink or blue to the most offensive thing I've seen in a long time - a Hello Kitty 'Big Book of Life' with hair and make-up tips that someone had the great wisdom to buy for my niece as a Xmas present - and I quote: "A little tinted moisturiser and colour on your cheeks will even out and blemishes and make your skin glow ..." DN is 7 FFS. Angry

I think the answer is, as I said earlier, to be the type of role model a son or daughter can look up to and respect. That said, if anyone bought my child that freakin' Hello Kitty book it would be going straight in the bin - the charity shop would be too good for it!

YuleingFanjo · 03/01/2012 14:17

thank you - I have seen some too so will try a search Grin

just feeling a real responsibility towards my son and not sure where to start.

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AlwaysWild · 03/01/2012 14:12

I have seen threads before so will be worth looking. (being helpful not saying 'so don't post). The only one I can recall is bluemilk for blogs.