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Game of Thrones

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skrumle · 30/12/2011 16:44

does anyone watch this? i've seen bits and pieces (maybe 4 different 5-10min segments) and it seems hideously misogynistic... every scene i've seen has either had women fully naked or else exposed in some way in it, whereas only 2 have had men partially exposed (and one scene they were oiled up warriors on horses so hardly equivalent to a woman standing naked before a fully clothed man being "evaluated").

the reason i've seen some of it is because my H has been watching it and he tried to defend it claiming that it's typical HBO, no worse than early seasons of SATC, etc but i disagree completely based on what i've seen - am i wrong, should i actually watch it??

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PrideOfChanur · 30/12/2011 17:11

I watched it and (mostly) enjoyed it when it was first shown - but enough of it was bang on my "ick" threshold for me to be unsure at the beginning.I found parts of it very misogynistic,and I am not sure myself whether that is fine in a realistic medieval fantasy world,or whether a modern writer shouldn't be normalising it.Haven't read the books,so don't know if that alters at all as the series progresses.
There are some strong female characters,and the bits that are all men are good....

VivaLeBeaver · 30/12/2011 17:11

Not seen the TV SERIEs yet but the books are fab and I don't think are misogynistic. There are weak female characters and also weak male ones. I'd say that all the strong(est) characters are female.

You've for Ceresi the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms who rules for years after her husband is killed. She may be a 2 faced bitch but she's a strong character. Even when she is arrested by the church and forced to walk naked through the town she refuses to be shamed.

Daenerys who is a Queen of sorts and mother of dragons. Raises an army and takes whole cities.

Ayra, high born daughter who refuses to sew and takes up sword fighting instead. Goes on the run for her life and travels about killing people and being as hard as nails.

Brienne - high born lady who is anything but. Dresses as a man and is about 7ft tall and kills knights. Very strong.

felicitywits · 30/12/2011 17:04

George RR Martin is a terrible, angry misogynist - lots of stories about v unsavoury goings on with young female fans too Sad

iklboonkey · 30/12/2011 17:03

It's very good. There are some full frontal male nude scenes. There are more female nude scenes but the book is written about a time/place where it was misogynistic. There are some very strong female characters and male characters are often shown as being weak & stupid.

ChunkyPickle · 30/12/2011 17:02

Not to mention a woman who's terribleness is emphasised by her breastfeeding her 8 year old (with specially modified gowns no less)

It's fantasy middle-ages and all that that entails.

ecclesvet · 30/12/2011 16:59

You should watch it because (I think) it's good. There is a fair bit of female nudity, though, as well as some particularly unpleasant rape scenes.