Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Happy Patriarchymas!

384 replies

thunderboltsandlightning · 24/12/2011 21:48

I know, I know - but this is the feminist section and christmas is about celebrating the birth of the son of god, with women's spirituality and power completely written out of the story. It's the classic patriarchal mindfuck for women. Even Santa's a man, but who does most of the present-buying and wrapping?

Then there's the fact that christmas is all about women doing most of the work, with men enjoying the benefits.

Each year I find it a little more difficult to have to go through it all. Once you've seen what it's about, it gets harder to ignore the brainwashing.

Hope everybody has a happy peaceful time, whatever you are celebrating.

OP posts:
verysmellyeli · 25/12/2011 10:11

Happy Patriarchymas!

One of the benefits of being a feminist atheist is that DH has done all the veg and gone to church, and I am on the sofa with a bag of chocolate coins and a sherry.

Grin
skrumle · 25/12/2011 10:04

happy patriarchymas :)

am doing quite well on the book front so far - all women authors! germaine greer, dawn french, tina fey and jennifer crusie (i do like a laugh - am not sure greer's will be a laugh a minute though...).

chibi · 25/12/2011 09:59

i am very very lucky that i grew up without any of the cultural baggage that most women seem to have (due yo a variety of fairly noninteresting circunstances)

such that whilst life involves the usual wifework bullhockey, it does not increase exponentially at xmas or at any other festival

having said that, i don't know how anyone doesn't see the massive pressure to have the perfect xmas, 'do it for the kids!', or know who is responsible for facilitating happy xmas memories

guff-ola, and the sooner we get rid of it the better

happy feministmas i am going to celebrate by downloading something tasty and feminist on to my new kindle (thx dh) -recommendations much appreciated

SardineQueen · 25/12/2011 09:55

Go Chandon Go! Do it!!!!!

Xmas here is going well - DD1 is happily crafting a feminist fairy sticker jewellery box

DD2 is eating chocolate money and doing play-doh with some measuring spoons. Earlier she shat on the rug (nappy malfunction) so that was festive! Maybe it was a comment on the patriarchal nature of the day?

Grin
HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 25/12/2011 09:51

Not to mention rude SGM! Do feminists not count in your "let's not be cunts to each other" drive BluddyMoFo?

TheRealTinselAndMistletoe · 25/12/2011 09:41

I went to church last night as DP is a Christian of the left wing pro women pro gay variety. Mary was mentioned as being a Virgin three times, coz that what important eh...

Tim minchin sums up Christmas for me in his song 'white wine in the sun'

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 09:38

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 09:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ChildofIsis · 25/12/2011 09:31

When you look further back than christianity you'll find a mid winter festival that celebrates the great Mother Goddess who births the sun god and brings forth the 'lost' light and warmth.
It is absolutely about the feminine principal.

As a pagan, Yule is one of my favourite festivals as it celebrates the life giving nature of women.

The romans moved yule to the 25th from 21st to coincide with an emperor's birthday (trying to deify him to the people)
When you read about the constellations mentioned in the bible that coincide with christ's birth you will see that the birth was in summer, late july.
The church moved it to counter the very strong pagan traditons within europe.
It's all about men wanting supremacy.
They only have it if we let them!

Yuletide felicitations to all.

BluddyMoFo · 25/12/2011 09:31

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chandon · 25/12/2011 09:25

Went to church with the little ones yesterday. DH did not come as "could not be bothered".

However, now that there is LOADS of work to do this morning, he has decided it is essential for him to go to church. On his own.

....he doesn't know I have a PLAN though. I have decided that 2012 will be the year where we will share the household chores more equally, and also the year where I will find a job (and regain some independence).

Time for a change in the Chandon household.

merry Christwomen to all! (and Merry Women's Greetings to the non religious)

SardineQueen · 25/12/2011 09:23

IT'S PATRI-ARCHY-MASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't have the same ring does it Grin

Have a good one all Smile

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 09:21

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 25/12/2011 09:17

I must start preparing myself something for Christmas. But seems a bit disheartening when I have no DP to buy on my behalf. :/

DS is surrounded by a pile of wrapping paper and toys, and for all the anti-Christmas feelings I had yesterday, I'm feeling kinda smug today, after seeing how his face lit up.

DBestFriend bought me The Beauty Myth, Living Dolls and Female Chauvinist Pigs, so happy with that.... Xmas Grin

Happy Patriarchymas!

KeepingUpWithTheCojones · 25/12/2011 09:13

I've been lurking on these boards and would like to thank all of you for changing the way I think in the past year.

This year DH has written the cards to his family, done all his own shopping and wrapped all his own presents. Looking back, we couldn't believe that this was something that before I'd just automatically done. It's strange to think that we didn't even realise we weren't equal in that respect before.

Hope everyone has a good day.

Xmas Smile
StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 09:04

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 25/12/2011 09:01

Happy Patriarchymas everyone!

SGM I'm jealous of you having a stocking! Sounds lovely though. DC didn't wake up until gone 8 this morning. Lovely lie in for me! (DH is working today so he was already up and out).

Also going to BIL and SILs today for dinner. BIL is doing the cooking. Hurrah!

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 08:54

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

gabid · 25/12/2011 08:47

So you are all complaining about having to do all the work - what sort of relationship do you have? Can you not arrange/plan things/share out the work with your DP/DH? Are you not having this conversation or is your DH not respectful enough to share the load?

All this feminist moaning, we may not be able to change everything overnight, but you can make it work for you both in your own home I would have thought.

thunderboltsandlightning · 25/12/2011 08:35

P.S. Stewie - v. jealous of your stocking (fluffy socks!) and LOLing at your DH's fairtrade gourmet stocking approach.

OP posts:
thunderboltsandlightning · 25/12/2011 08:32

I'm getting a warm feministmas glow here. Xmas Grin

Hope everybody has a lovely day today - back to the feminist analysis tomorrow!

OP posts:
AmorYCohetes · 24/12/2011 23:37

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

DeePanCrisPandEeeven · 24/12/2011 23:27

oh ffs. [yawn]

ElfOfThePerverse · 24/12/2011 23:26

I always assumed elves could be of either gender but the male ones tended to have the higher ranking and better paid jobs on the present production line.

We don't really go in for the religious aspect so I'm happy to wish everyone a happy pagan winter festival. Xmas Smile

And DP did most of the shopping Xmas Smile Xmas Smile

StewieGriffinsMom · 24/12/2011 23:18

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.