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Happy Patriarchymas!

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thunderboltsandlightning · 24/12/2011 21:48

I know, I know - but this is the feminist section and christmas is about celebrating the birth of the son of god, with women's spirituality and power completely written out of the story. It's the classic patriarchal mindfuck for women. Even Santa's a man, but who does most of the present-buying and wrapping?

Then there's the fact that christmas is all about women doing most of the work, with men enjoying the benefits.

Each year I find it a little more difficult to have to go through it all. Once you've seen what it's about, it gets harder to ignore the brainwashing.

Hope everybody has a happy peaceful time, whatever you are celebrating.

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Yama · 25/12/2011 19:37

That sounds good Stewie. My dh and dd will love it.

I have access to a badge making machine by the way.

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 19:31

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HandDivedScallopsrgreat · 25/12/2011 19:24

"The happiest men I have ever met are the ones who treat others well."

How true! And a lovely sentiment too.

Yama · 25/12/2011 19:21

Stewie - what's Captain America? I know I could Google but I'd rather you told me.

My children are very much on a diet of pro-female films. Inkheart being my current favourite.

I have a son and the way I see it, his happiness lies in treating others with respect. Especially, any females he gets into a relationship with. So, no entitled Little Lord Fonteroy for my boy. The happiest men I have ever met are the ones who treat others well.

I pity the men who come on here to try to unsettle us.

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 19:19

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Yama · 25/12/2011 19:04

That should probably be 'type of person' (I blame the aforementioned wine).

Yama · 25/12/2011 19:03

I'm here to redress the balance. We've had a couple of anti-women posts and I'm very much pro-women.

I have pretty much either played with the dc or sat on a very comy chair with people handing me wine all day.

Luckily I was brought up in a family that likes and values women. I'm hoping that means my dd can avoid the type of people who take the time to criticise women on a feminism thread.

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 25/12/2011 18:56

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NICEySigh · 25/12/2011 18:43

Happy, "lets whine and be a martyr and miserable bastard day".

This thread is utter bollocks in so many ways I can not care to mention.

Life is what you make it, as is what you choose to believe in and how you interprete it. Its 2011.

God forbid DH made christmas din dins after I prepared half of it. He wrapped his fair share. He even went to the in-laws without me cos I could face pregnantzilla and MIL.

As for spirituality, well... even the Church is moving on these days, even if slowly. You do have a choice in how much you choose to believe in. Organised religion isn't for everyone and there are all sorts of different Christian Churches with a different angle on the same thing. You are not obliged to stick with the one...

Threads like this are everything I hate about feminism.

Flame me back. I don't care. I can't bear this kind of shit. There is still stuff that feminism could help with. Christmas ain't one of them.

Bah-fucking-humbug to everyone who thinks differently.

ThePoorMansBeckySharp · 25/12/2011 18:29

"Then there's the fact that christmas is all about women doing most of the work, with men enjoying the benefits."

I don't know, men probably pay for most of it.

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/12/2011 18:14

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teatimesthree · 25/12/2011 16:12

Merry Women's Greetings, one and all! (lurker here)

I listed to Carol's at Kings yesterday, and while the singing was lovely, the bible readings were a bit of a shocker - I didn't remember that it started with Adam and Eve.

AlwaysWild · 25/12/2011 15:58

Happy patriarchymass! I went to my first nativity with a highly attuned sense of feminist awareness yesterday. Fuck me the misogyny was coming thick and fast.

A Yule reclamation sounds just the job Grin

Have a good day one and all!

Ps I referred to a gender less penguin as a she earlier. My fil said 'oh is it a lady penguin'. 'well I can't tell it's gender' I replied

forkful · 25/12/2011 12:48

Happy Patriarchymas!

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 25/12/2011 11:37

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architien · 25/12/2011 11:13

If you believe it or not does not change that for a great number of Christians Christmas is about the birth of Jesus by an incredibly inspiring woman. In my tradition Mother Mary is celebrated for being powerful in her vocation of mother of God. She was asked and she said yes. She is incredible in her strength despite all awful things the world was throwing at her in having to travel, the inn debacle...what ARE you on about?! She's refereed to as a virgin to confirm her as without a doubt expecting the son of God. Not any other reason... Hmm
Woman's strength and personal spirituality is celebrated very strongly in my experience.
In fact that has helped inspire me in my career and as a mother.

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