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anyone feel uncomfortable about Military Wives Choir?

263 replies

Bennifer · 19/12/2011 13:20

That?s it really. Although I like the idea that the wives are raising money for charity ~(and that we won't have an X factor number 1), there?s something a little unsettling about the military wives angle I can?t quite put my finger on. Am I overthinking this?

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stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:37

Maybe they should start up a female serving soldier's choir and call it that? In an- "I-can-afford-to-be-ironic-because-I have-a-big-gun-and-know-how-to-use-it" kind of way?

MudAndGlitter · 19/12/2011 14:36

Thanks SQ! I meant that Kate Middleton comes across as down to earth and I can't quite think of the word but classy will have to do!
All I really meant was I'd rather have my daughter turn out like Kate even though as far as I know she doesn't earn her own money etc than turn out like Katie Price who yes, has made a fortune but repulses me for many reasons.

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:35

Interestingly we know nothing of the women in the choir, apart from that they are married. Or in fact, not married. So basically that they are going out with military types. They could be the most appalling role models for all anyone knows.

QuickLookBusy · 19/12/2011 14:35

The point is this whole thing was done for a TV programme.

The choir was set up inorder to learn to sing and the final episode was a concert for the choir members' partners.

Hence the name "Military Wives" sums up the point of the programme.

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:34

True

Although I'd rather be in kate middleton's shoes than working on a sex line.

Although the best shoes of all are obviously ones that you have bought yourself as you are independently wealthy and don't have to take your clothes off for anyone. Or something Grin

meditrina · 19/12/2011 14:33

How about classic "whores de combat"?

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:32

That just turns it into a very good example of the madonna/ whore complex.

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:31

harlot is a good one
Strumpet is great

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:31

I think what mudandglitter means to say is that kate middleton is a better role model for girls than women working in the "glamour" or sex industry, making money form displaying or otherwise selling their bodies.

Wink
LadyClariceCannockMonty · 19/12/2011 14:29

So do I! Also 'floozy'.

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:29

I must admit though, I do love the word "strumpet".

In an ironic sense, natch.

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 19/12/2011 14:28

I'm with stubborn!

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:27

Although I admit it's not so catchy!

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:26

How about...."dressing how you want to be dressed and not getting judged for it?"

MudAndGlitter · 19/12/2011 14:26

Strumpet?

MudAndGlitter · 19/12/2011 14:25

What word would you use then?

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:25

Ohhh...."trampy". That's OK then....[hmmm]

AliBellandthe40jingles · 19/12/2011 14:25

But it isn't just a Chivenor choir, there are a load of them from Plymouth as well.

We have to assume that the women in the choir are happy (for this portion of their lives) to be defined as military wives otherwise they wouldn't be involved with it.

MudAndGlitter · 19/12/2011 14:23

I'm sorry doesn't dress trampy then. And I never said short skirts were slutty.

stubbornstains · 19/12/2011 14:22

It makes me feel uncomfortable too. I comforted myself with the supposition that perhaps some of them are in same-sex marriages with serving female soldiers Smile.

I've been playing with the idea of how the reverse would look - how does a choir called "Midwives' Husbands" (oh no, alone on Christmas Day, she's attending a home birth) sound?

(waits for hell to freeze over).

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:20

Maybe we need to consider the idea that MN feminists are not the target audience for this record!

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:19

" I think it the identification of 'wives' as a possessive. I think the name was chosen for sentimentality and commercability. I do think an alternative name would have been less, well, something or other; can't decide quite what."

Yes.

SardineQueen · 19/12/2011 14:18

What was wrong with Kate was the way the media presented her, and the wedding, and the whole dress thing was a bit odd. She comes across very well and what I have seen of her is fine.

I am not sure what the dressing as a slut thing has to do with anything either. Seems a bit random.

StewieGriffinsMom · 19/12/2011 14:15

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meditrina · 19/12/2011 14:14

They were brought together for the Festival of Remembrance, so a definition in terms of the military was appropriate.

That the focus has continued beyond this is, I suppose a reflection of the public welcome.

It never occurred to me to think that "military wife" was either a comprehensive or a limiting description.

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