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Pro-life / Pro-choice

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Drowz0r · 12/12/2011 13:37

Admittedly usually something argued accross the atlantic than in the UK anymore... I am curious to know how it ranges in the forum.

Anyone here pro-life or pro-choice? Any specific reason?

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superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:44

Perhaps the problem is i am separating my belief from what i would do in practise (if i wrote the law).

i BELIEVE it is murder.
I would allow exceptions.

In an ideal world there would be no unwanted pregnancies.

surely surely we can agree on that!!

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:44

Oh lord, my roast joint is burning. Gotta fly. Carry on ladies....Grin

recall · 18/12/2011 19:44

I too have first hand experience of it.

recall · 18/12/2011 19:43

Stewie when would most people see a terminated foetus ??

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:43

anyway so you wouldnt be against it?

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:42

I dont agree stewie. i dont believe women do know. particularly young women/teenagers.

i have first hand experience of that actually.

recall · 18/12/2011 19:42

Stewie I disagree, most people do not know what it looks like.

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:42

Where in your first post did you say murder in a moral sense and not a legal one? Murder is unlawful killing - it has a very specific legal meaning, not a moral one.

Once you start talking about making exceptions to what you declare is always murder you are trying to make a case for moral murder - bit tricky that.

StewieGriffinsMom · 18/12/2011 19:41

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superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:39

Would any of you be against having to watch a video of an abortion before you have one?

I cant see what is wrong with knowing what actually happens/what the baby actually looks like etc?

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:37

i would just narrow the exceptions and lower the limit.

BUT my opinion would be it is still WRONG no matter what the exception.

recall · 18/12/2011 19:36

Superduperdiva I agree, it is foeticide - inhuman in my opinion.

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:36

the law on murder is the same.

default position to kill someone is murder
but there are exceptions e.g. war time.

its rather simple actually.

in fact it is the law we have at the moment Hmm

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:35

I find all your posts (not you personally!) lacking in thought. TOTALLY lacking in any thought for the unborn child.

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:34

Unfortunately the rest were back tracking and did not answer my specific points but simply muttered something about balance....

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:34

Dont worry I knew it was for me!!!! Grin

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:33

Oh, I did super I did - your first two posts were very very clear.

StewieGriffinsMom · 18/12/2011 19:33

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superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:33

no backing into corner. i have maintained my position totally.

-murder (not in legal sense but in moral sense)
-a couple of very particular exceptions should be allowed

cant see how ive changed from that?

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:32

Sorry - superduperdiva misspelled your name Blush

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:31

sports im not going to repate myself again. Read back.

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:31

superdupadiva: I think you gave a gut reaction in your initial postings and have backed yourself into a corner. It's fortunate that we don't generally make our laws on gut reactions but after careful debate and thought.

superduperdiva · 18/12/2011 19:30

because black the woman made the choice to have sex/not use contraception/took the risk. The baby is defenceless.

Create life, then kill it?! Words just can't express how AWFUL that is.

sportsfanatic · 18/12/2011 19:28

ive already said i believe there could be an exception where the risk of death of the mother was raised above normal risks of pregnancy.

But you have said abortion is murder superduperdiva. So are the exceptions murder or not murder?

I can't get a handle on your inconsistency here...Confused

flippinada · 18/12/2011 19:26

What I like to remember when reading threads like this is that pro-lifers are highly unlikely to get their own way. Still, for those who find our laws on this far too lax (who do these incubators women think they are, wanting to have control over their own bodies? How selfish), there is always the opportunity to move somewhere less liberal.