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newbabynewmum · 09/12/2011 22:39

This is my first time posting in feminism so be gentle with me. After being raped earlier this year I have taken great interest in societies viewpoint on rape. This daily mail article has made me so so cross. Why can't women drink as much as men? Why do I have to be mindful when I go out and not men? It upsets me. Just because I had had a drink when I was raped doesn't mean I 'asked for it' or 'deserved it' - the reason I couldn't say no was because he gave me no option.

Am I right in my thinking? It's ok to be cross is it?

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TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 14/12/2011 11:06

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jamma111 · 14/12/2011 11:04

And then you get the opposite, and its just as bad.

This one from this year Scottish anti-rape poster is about as embarrassing as you can get. The MENZ groups must love this.

Here's the list in full;

  1. Don't put drugs in women's drinks.
  1. When you see a woman walking by herself, leave her alone.
  1. If you pull over to help a woman whose care has broken down, remember not to rape her.
  1. If are in a lift and a woman gets in, don't rape her.
  1. Never creep into a woman's home through an unlocked window, or spring out at her from between parked cars, or rape her.
  1. USE THE BUDDY SYSTEM
If you are not able to yourself from assaulting people, ask a friend to stay with you while your are in public.
  1. Don't forget, it's not sex with someone who's asleep or unconscious - it's RAPE!
  1. Carry a whistle if you are worried you might assault someone 'by accident' you can hand it to the person your are with, so they can call for help.
  1. Don't forget. Honesty is the best policy. If you have every intendtion of having sex later on with the woman you're dating regardless of how she feels about it, tell her directly that there is every chance you will rape her. If you don't communicate your intentions, she may take it as a sign that you do not plan to rape her and inadvertantly feel safe.
  1. Don't rape.

Number 3 - If you pull over to help a woman whose care has broken down, remember not to rape her.

Yeah that will encourage blokes to help such women all the time.

Fancy having the piss taken out of you whilst in a lift alone with a man? Don't worry, number 4. If are in a lift and a woman gets in, don't rape her
...is happening all-the-time at my workplace!

The 'rape whistle' is supposed to be satire; no need to actually make it a truth;

  1. Carry a whistle if you are worried you might assault someone 'by accident' you can hand it to the person your are with, so they can call for help.

How fecking' embarrassing.

TheBrandyButterflyEffect · 10/12/2011 01:05

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tethersjinglebellend · 10/12/2011 00:03

What a mockery it makes of men too- most men I know, if they came across a woman stark naked and drunk/comatose/unconscious would cover her up/call an ambulance/police- and, inexplicably, not rape her Hmm

It does men a disservice to suggest that they are incapable of controlling themselves and that the only thing stopping them becoming rapists is women keeping their wits about them.

newbabynewmum · 09/12/2011 23:04

I've seen (and got cross at) that advert before tethered.

Thanks everyone. I'll look at those Scottish adverts when im at a computer too.

Makes me so cross how society advertises this kind of thing. Really, really cross! It took me a long time to recognise that it wasn't my fault because I'd had a few drinks. I wasn't even drunk. Just thought that because I'd had a couple of glasses of wine and had a slightly revealing dress on it must've been my fault.

Shows how messed up society made me!

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AlwaysWild · 09/12/2011 22:52

Hi newbabynewmum

So sorry to hear about your rape. You're utterly right to be cross at those ads. It is never the women's fault for being raped. That first ad suggests to me that women are in a perpetual state of consent so if you can't say 'no' then it must be a 'yes'. This is so utterly wrong and also not what UK law says.

Have you seen any of the Scottish rape crisis adverts? I can't link as on my phone but they are great for dispelling these rape myths.

Prolesworth · 09/12/2011 22:52

Yes you are right in your thinking and yes it's OK to be angry about victim-blaming, absolutely it is!

I'm so sorry to hear what happened to you NBNM x

tethersjinglebellend · 09/12/2011 22:52

That is awful.

I am having huge issues with (caution, may be triggering; that's part of the issue with it)this advert at the moment. The poster campaign was bad enough, but this is sickening. All to advertise what appears to be a profit-making service. The link is from 2009, but the ad is still being shown in London.

Don't mean to hijack your thread, but no- you are right to be angry. More people should be.

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