More rape posters

Ah yes and not dressed in the regualtion harvey nicks dress JuliaS.

Because only women who don't wear Harvey nicks, regret sex

Newbabynewmum-

Thank you for posting and I send my heartfelt wishes for your continued strength and happiness. There is something very special about a person like yourself whom, having experienced such a traumatic event, seeks to help and educate others....

I agree with Stewiegriffinsmum-

Activism definitely makes you feel stronger.

Ugh. HATE victim blaming. I know it's not the done thing but here is my blog post about it. I referred to being beaten up but... the same bloke did a lot worse... and apparently I asked for it... Here

I have come to the conclusion that the first reflex in society is to blame the woman for whatever bad happens to her, and to give the credit to someone else for anyhing that is good..

NOT all men are rapists. Of course.

(Not used to posting on here either...)

Nice to see our old friend 'regretful sex' right there with rape because they so often appear so closely together they are frequently confused. Obviously we are too dim to be able to tell the difference and liable to accuse innocent men when we reconsider our irresponsible drunken sluttishness the morning after (very often while tucking into a breakfast kebab at a bus stop)

Tethers, those ads are horrifying... :(

They also reinforce that old myth that rapes are carried out by someone you don't know, in some dark secluded alleyway or wherever... Home is that magical safe place.... Apparently.

The prob with those Hertfordshire ads that target men, is that most men who rape women don't think they have done.

So they won't actually have any resonance. Most men don't think of themselves as rapists, because rapists are scary men in bushes and alleyways, not men like them and their mates.

I saw this today, and had a moment of outrage when I realised they had the downright cheek to target an anti-rape poster at men

I was however, relieved to read the text and see that it made no mention of a prison sentence, and that the some of the other posters place the blame where it belongs- squarely on the shoulders of the victim. Good-o.

The people who think it says 'all men are rapists' presumably do so because they know that feminists have no sense of humour

Have you had an irony bypass, jamma?

Probably.

It's the same with the discussion about Solanas's SCUM Manifesto which I deliberately ignored. Apparently that was irony.

Now, I wonder if this is irony? 'Cos ostensibly, coming from the US/UK charity StorItNow.org, it looks like it is branding any male walking hand-in-hand to be a pedophile.

But there you are, maybe I'm bit hard of thinking (that old routine of determining any woman who opposes the conventional view must be mentally impaired). I'm missing the irony here too.

Silly me.

I'm so sorry this has happened to you, new - and you're absolutely right to be pissed off with the victim blaming. It's a loada crap.

The slight good news is that the ads were pulled after feminist-lead outcry. - Which is heartening! We're always being told, "oh, why are you bothering with X, haven't you got bigger fish to fry?" - and the answer is that by bothering with (whatever) we can change the world, one tiny, victim-blaming, rape-culture-supporting piece of crap at a time.

[waves Feminist banner proudly]

I'm a man. I've seen that poster a number of times yet I don't read that poster as a "all men are rapists" message at all. I read it as an ironic statement aimed at highlighting the ridiculousness of victim-blaming anti-rape messages.

It's not going to stop rapists (although point 7 might just cause some people pause for thought) but I don't think that's the point of it. The vast majority of men are not rapists. But an awful lot of people unwittingly hold victim-blaming views because that is what rape is all too often presented as. The more that victim-blaming is reduced, the greater the chances that prosecutions will succeed. Of course it's not the only thing that needs to change but it is part of it.

Have you had an irony bypass, jamma?

Men who are not rapists will not be offended by the poster. Hopefully, however, they will be reminded of their responsibility as men to challenge and hold other men accountable who are rapists or who hold or engage in behaviour that indicates they could rape

Ah, so it is aimed at all men. Luckily those non-rapist men who pull over to help a woman whose car has broken down will realise this and will persevere to continuallly remind themselves of their responsibility as men to challenge and hold other men accountable who are rapists or who hold or engage in behaviour that indicates they could rape

Now you see this must be my tendency to empathize with the opposite sex. 'Cos if I was a man and saw the poster, I'd automatically assume it was aimed at all men. Now I only know of eight males who have seen that poster (my husband and seven work colleagues) and every single one, independent of each other has determined it is a 'all men are rapists' message.

Now not exactly a scientific study that, but I presume the producers of the poster performed something similar and obviously got the complete opposite response from their sample.

'Cos to me 8. Carry a whistle if you are worried you might assault someone 'by accident' you can hand it to the person your are with, so they can call for help. is just plain condescending. But its a lovely comforting thought to think that genuine rapists or would-be-rapists would be influenced by such ideas.

Personally I would prefer a rather different 10-point plan; one that starts with ensuring the CPS and Procurator Fiscal are under the cosh when it comes to bettering rape convictions, one that sees extensive victim support, all-the-way-to-court and beyond, one that sees police officers fully trained in the use of rape kits in a similar way to US officers. But then that's just me. It seems.

I love that you are so naive to think there is such an all-powerful entity as the 'Scottish feminist lobby'.

There was a reason no-one replyed to your other thread.

(Make that "hold views" rather than just "hold" in the last line.)

Hey, why not try the poster out in say, The Democratic Republic of Congo.

If it is so effective in Scotland, why not there?

Its a bloody recruitment poster for the MENZ movement.

Men who are not rapists will not be offended by the poster. Hopefully, however, they will be reminded of their responsibility as men to challenge and hold other men accountable who are rapists or who hold or engage in behaviour that indicates they could rape.

You might be missing the point - the poster isn't directed at rapists.

Its directed at men. All of them.