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BBC Sports Personality of the Year

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AlwaysWild · 29/11/2011 18:52

As you might already be aware, the BBC Sports Personality of the Year has no women in the shortlist.

What you might not know, is the breakdown of which media nominated who and that Nuts and Zoo were part of the process link here Angry

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slug · 30/11/2011 13:02

It's a bit hard to be seen as a "personality" if the sports reporters refuse to feature women in their papers or on screen. Hmm

It matters diddly squat how well women do, unless they are in posession of a penis, their achievements are thought as somehow....unfeminine and therefore not worthy of mention.

LineRunnerSolsticeLover · 30/11/2011 13:00

But men like it.

LimburgseVlaai · 30/11/2011 12:57

Golf isn't even a sport.

Step · 30/11/2011 12:47

Let's see still Chrissie - Stands at the end of every race handing out medals and encouragement for hours after she's finished, approachable, always smiling, loads of charity work, great sense of humour, modest and brilliant.

Race - Chrissie v all three golfers, let's say fastest to run a short distance - a mile.

LineRunnerSolsticeLover · 30/11/2011 12:40

Also it's Sports Personality of the Year, not sporting achievement of the year. So anyone who caught the public imagination, increased participation in or the popularity of a sport, made a heroic effort, and was just loved for sporting contribution, could be eligible.

Three fucking male golfers, though....

slug · 30/11/2011 12:28

The list is endless:

Rebecca Adlington - World Champion
Chrissie Welligton - World Champion
Kerry-Anne Payne - World Champion
Beth Tweddle - World Champion
Jessica Ennis - World Indoor Champion
Manon Carpenter - World Champion
Laura Trott, Wendy Houvenaghel, Danielle King - World Champions
Elizabeth Neave, Louise Donington, Laura Blakeman - World Champions
Emma Pooley - World Champion
Helen Jenkins - World Champion

And then there are the ones who came second or third....

I believe the best Andy Murray could do was 4th. Hmm

Step · 30/11/2011 12:28

Chrissie Wellington.

All round great person, regularly crushes the pro men in the hardest of sports. Ironman world champion, world record holder and all round nice person. We love you muppet!

MuddlingThroughItAll · 30/11/2011 12:24

Sorry I meant the final shortlist. And I agree with the stupidity of having three golfers, all suitable to be the 'sports personality'? I had only heard of one of them!

LineRunnerLovesSianMassey · 30/11/2011 12:15

I know plenty about sport, thank you, normaleggy. Hence the name.

LineRunnerLovesSianMassey · 30/11/2011 12:14

There were women in the shortlists. How the Final Shortlist was distilled into a male only final ten and including three fucking golfers is a bit of a stitch-up mystery.

MuddlingThroughItAll · 30/11/2011 12:05

Without a doubt I would expect to see Rebecca Adlington on that list.

Kveta · 30/11/2011 11:53

ah, thanks Toby. I haven't read any of these mags, so didn't realise that some had sports sections! it still seems like an odd shortlist anyway. I mean, I love that Andy Murray, a Scot no less, is a successful sports star and amazing tennis player. But personality?! really?!

normaleggy · 30/11/2011 11:47

But nobody has their own ideas, just jumping on the bandwagon of a subject they know nothing about?

AlwaysWild · 30/11/2011 11:28

Have a look at the nominations Norma and you'd find some.

Or have a read of the guardian article also linked to

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normaleggy · 30/11/2011 11:24

So which female would you nominate? Rather than arguing that its unfair to just have males, maybe someone could put forward a female sports person?

MuddlingThroughItAll · 30/11/2011 11:12

I'm equally shocked that there are three golfers, two cricketers and two athletes - not much diversity in the sports. I also agree with worldgonecrazy that the female rowing team have been great this year, and rowing as a sport is completely overlooked.

worldgonecrazy · 30/11/2011 11:05

Doh! Thank you - I have to admit to not knowing who most of the people mentioned in the lists are, regardless of whether they are male or female.

AlwaysWild · 30/11/2011 11:03

Thanks muddling

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MuddlingThroughItAll · 30/11/2011 11:01

Has anyone linked to this yet?

AlwaysWild · 30/11/2011 11:00

I posted a link in the OP

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worldgonecrazy · 30/11/2011 10:59

We have a world championship winning female rowing team - did they even get a mention? Is there anywhere it's possible to see the short lists that were submitted?

bemybebe · 30/11/2011 10:56

Does Heat and Closer even have sports editors?? I personally think those and their pairs Nuts and Bolts should go where they belong - in the bin...

What a disgrace!!

TobyLeWolef · 30/11/2011 10:50

Nuts and Zoo have sports sections. Heat and Closer don't.

Kveta · 30/11/2011 10:23

I don't understand the presence of Nuts and Zoo here - why them, and not Heat and Closer (for example)?! does anyone know why?

Quodlibet · 30/11/2011 10:22

Ah yes that must be it.

Have we solved the mystery of why the UK has such high female obesity levels?