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letting the MRA trolls win

134 replies

feministcrashdummy · 29/11/2011 16:19

Seems to me like this is what has happened.

Yes, the attacks we had from MRATs were appaling. Yes, MNHQ's response was disappointing, to say the least.

But has it really come to the point where we are so sceptical that we justify ourselves spouting venom at each other?

We namechange to protect our privacy but it leaves us vulnerable to attack from within ourselves.

How is this not letting them win?

If they wanted to 'divide and conquer' then they have surely succeeded Sad.

Personally, and I understand why this might not be the choice for others, I'm going to stay. I'll keep fighting the partiarchy, in whatever way I can. I have nothing to prove to anyone else. I'll keep namechanging to keep under the MRATs' radars even if means I'm flying solo.

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swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 19:10

x posted lrd - we've done anal bleaching on here somewhere as well i think. not literally of course. there was some talk of toothpaste Hmm

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 19:09

Cross-post - sorry you're feeling like that MBJ.

FWIW, I think it's actually been much, much better recently. It'd be lovely to see you around more.

swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 19:09

have barely been here either thereal.

call me old fashioned but i would prefer to talk feminism in a feminist orientated space. not one that rolls out the red carpet for misogynists.

it has spurred many on to up their activism and feminist networking and support in rl though so that's a positive side effect.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 19:08

Could be, Saf. Btw, after that conversation on the Wellbeing thread about lip balm I mentioned to DH that someone mentioned the best stuff was actually cracked-nipple cream. I wish you could have seen the look of utter horror on his face as he stammered 'but how would you crack your nipples'.

Grin

Moving on ... it occurs to me I may look a little peculiar if I don't clarify my earlier comment with a reference to one of the oddest threads I've been on in the past few days and an excellent example of why not to buy into patriarchial beauty practices ...

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/1351124-Bleaching-the-chocolate-starfish

TheRealMBJ · 29/11/2011 19:05

But, basically, I don't really know what I'm talking about because I haven't been here but that was my feeling before 'leaving'

TheRealMBJ · 29/11/2011 19:04

I must say, that I gphaven't really been around on the Feminist board since MNHQ's statement. I've been really busy in RL (what with having a baby and all Grin) but I really feel like I can't be bothered with the Feminist board in here after that.

I'm really still learning about feminism and felt like this was a safe space to explore in but don't really any more Sad. Not because of the genuine, existing posters but rather because of the proliferation of MRAs and other trolls

swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 19:03

are we being smart arse facetious bitches again? nest of bloody vipers i tell you.

swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 19:03

maybe it makes good lip balm? or is good for removing hair?

Hullygully · 29/11/2011 19:03

what a spitey spite op

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 19:02

(Hmm, maybe feminist venom has arse-bleaching properties, I dunno?)

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 19:01
Sad

Fuck this, I'm off to bleach my arsehole and dance in my heels.

AlwaysWild · 29/11/2011 18:59

Aint no support here LRD, merely a river of venom Wink

swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 18:59

it's like a 90's dance floor in here

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 18:56

I don't know whether to take that as support or not! Confused

AlwaysWild · 29/11/2011 18:54

[spits on LRD's mop]

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 18:53
KoPo · 29/11/2011 18:49

Sorry its just spilled Wine on the floor. I got clumsy folding the chair away.

swallowedAfly · 29/11/2011 18:45

is that what all the sticky stuff on the floor is? i did wonder. perhaps we could have little spitoons for hygene's sake.

AmorYCohetes · 29/11/2011 18:42

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RealityIsADistantMemory · 29/11/2011 18:32

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 18:31

No popcorn? Sad

KoPo · 29/11/2011 18:30

And there was me thinking about how civil most of the threads in here have been recently. We have even had the odd civil posts from men, with civil sensible responses.

Have I somehow missed all this venom? I have seen fist time posters welcomed and listened to.

LeBOF · 29/11/2011 18:21

I think that "fighting the partiarchy" has continued despite some posters deciding to discuss things less on mumsnet, to be honest. I know of lots of events that have taken place recently, for example, and that lots of MNers have attended them and set up local discussion and activism groups. Which probably sticks in the craw of that sad little animator man and his friends, but can only be a good thing. Feminism isn't especially meaningful if it merely equates to having an argument on the internet, but I suppose it is an easy battlefield for MRAs, as they don't have to change out of their dirty underpants to get dressed and go anywhere.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 29/11/2011 17:20

Bobbly - 'Mens' Rights Activists'. A while back there were these blokes who'd talk about some of the posters on here on their websites and about how horrible and mean Mumsnet, Feminism, and Mumsnet Feminsts were.

madwomanintheattic · 29/11/2011 17:19

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haven't seen anything personally, but not around much.