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Absolutely Fabulous

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ChickenLickn · 13/11/2011 16:52

Is absolutely fabulous the best feminist TV show?

The main characters all women, it certainly passes the bechdel test.

Is comedy more feminist than other genres? we have many strong female characters and shows.

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crumpet · 01/12/2021 20:10

Jeniffer Saunders also struck gold with Jam and Jerusalem. A fabulous ensemble of very different female characters, hugely funny and very touching. Have no idea why it didn’t get the recognition it deserved

MrsSkylerWhite · 01/12/2021 20:05

Christmas episode: “Have you eaten, Pats”?
“Not since 1973”

Grin no idea if it’s feminist but very funny.

CheeseMmmm · 01/12/2021 20:03

It also just gets better and better! Once the characters are established. It's just so good!

Enjoy!

CrossPurposes · 01/12/2021 18:42

It's on iPlayer @DragonMovie

DragonMovie · 01/12/2021 18:26

I never really watched Ab Fab at the time but this thread is making me think I missed a trick! Anyone know where I can watch it?

EarthSight · 01/12/2021 18:20

Having female characters in a TV program or book doesn't mean the piece is feminist though.

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 01/12/2021 18:01

The Chicago skit is absolute gold. So well done

CheeseMmmm · 01/12/2021 15:17

MsT

Ha! Awesome June Whitfield.

Remember when announced cast, there was a bit of ??? June Whitfield?!

Course mostly known for Terry and June.

She was fab in... Abfab Grin

TheSonjaMorgan · 01/12/2021 15:00

In the film, the ex husband Marshall is turning into a transgender woman. His wife mentions that his penis will be removed, but that they are having additional counselling to deal with that....

MsTSwift · 01/12/2021 08:29

Edina “I’m not a fat person inside me there’s a thin person trying to get out”

June Whitfield “just the one dear” 😁

SoniaFouler · 01/12/2021 08:26

I have to plunge headfirst down a flight of a vertical stairs to even raise an eyebrow from you these days

CheeseMmmm · 01/12/2021 00:24

Lol that was so funny with the stairs 😀😀😀

And the ingratiating voice and behaviour when wheedling. Saffy just standing there and saying. What do you want? In a tired voice Grin

PyongyangKipperbang · 01/12/2021 00:16

I also think that parents of teenagers loved it because we could do the whole raised eyebrows "thats you that is" at our teens who loved it too. I know I did. DD (now 24) loved it, then hated it, now loves it again and has actually apologised for her own "throwing myself down the stairs for attention" moment!

Same with Kevin the Teenager. We all laughed together right up until my (now adult) teen son realised that we werent laughing at the same thing he was....went off a bit after that :o

CheeseMmmm · 01/12/2021 00:10

While finding patsy Eddie hilarious and relating to a point as loads of women did...

You're not supposed to like them! They're horrible people. Childish, self centred, no empathy and both horrible to a teen girl.

You're supposed to feel sympathy for saffy growing up in that environment. And understand her frustration and firmly suppressed upset at being treated that way by her mum.

The gran takes the edge of how awful it is for her by giving her someone who loves her, spends time with her. And importantly makes subtlish digs at Eddie and she's her mum so has a different impact (and makes saffy giggle Smile).

It's interesting to see how others saw it!

CheeseMmmm · 30/11/2021 23:40

Colditz I didn't read it like that at all!

Eddie and patsy behaviour totally OTT! Eddie throwing teenage tantrums and being horrible to saffy like teens can do to mum. You don't understand you're so square boring I hate you!

The other point is that saffy is a teen and rebellion against parents is really common. To rebel against Eddie what is going to get up her nose worst?

CheeseMmmm · 30/11/2021 23:37

The joke is that the roles are reversed surely.

Eddie behaves like a teenager and saffy is sensible and says things to her that a mum would say to a teen.

Deliriumoftheendless · 30/11/2021 07:35

Then it where Eddie and Patsy come home after a night drinking is one of the funniest things (and most relatable) I’ve ever seen.

MammaLovesLeopard · 30/11/2021 07:32

@colditz

yes, Saffy is the voice of the establishment - and she spends most of her time, each episode, being made to look fuddy-duddy, ridiculous, and dull.
It's a comedy you realise?
tzarine · 30/11/2021 06:23

yes.

jennifer saunders goes after new age women's cults, the inanity of the fashion business, dieting, the pressure to be thin.

  • it's funny as fuck, sweetie darling
PyongyangKipperbang · 30/11/2021 03:27

I know its wrong but when Eddie says it its like it was a first name and a surname so thats how I've aways imagined it as somehow the C doesnt work :o

Invasionofthegutsnatchers · 30/11/2021 03:24

Titi kaka 🤣

PyongyangKipperbang · 30/11/2021 02:24

The OP was written before the film came out
..... ZOMBIE ALERT!!!!

However.....in the film saffy warns her DD (who did become Lola despite Saffy naming her Jane) that she sacrificed her childhood in an attempt to piss off her mother and that Lola shouldnt do the same.

So it really was her rebellion that she was so buttoned up and disapproving, one cant help but think that if Gran had been Saffy's mother then Saffy would have ended up as an Eddie. Probably not with Titi Kaka as a friend though.

CheeseMmmm · 30/11/2021 02:18

Not seen it.

Feminist drama though. Doubt it would work Grin
Off the top of my head and vv mainstream-
Cagney and Lacey
Thelma and Louise
Call the midwife
Dagenham
As a start...

In fact Dagenham also had loads of humour in it.

TheLeadbetterLife · 30/11/2021 02:15

Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. A masterpiece in every way, and feminist as fuck.

CheeseMmmm · 30/11/2021 02:05

I'm not even going to bother with the women who are interested in women's rights are incapable of humour thing. Noted though!

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