london hosting miss World and the views on The wright stuff

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Well, metaphorically speaking. Literally, it's more like COO.

There's always "Pope" for still existing titles. Reasonably certain that one has yet to go to a non-Catholic woman.

Empress might be a tad difficult nowadays.

Well, FWIW, I do not want to be a princess. Nor queen. I'm gunning straight for empress here, and I mean "regnant" not "consort".

Bullshit!

Miss World 2019 Toni-Ann Singh Plans to Go to Medical School

Maybenow.

The judo will swing it. You are definitely the next Miss World.

if beauty is only a small part of it then great - i'm going to enter i'm quite talented, very good at sports that require great balance, good mountain biker... i can recite poetry, and i'm really quite good at judo... i'm intelligent too - got a maths degree - and a good public speaker...

do you think the fact i'm a chunky, muscly, 5'2" will hold me back? - i do have naturally blonde hair... but it is naturally curly/wavy/messy...

well it's a show for people who watch daytime television so...?

That's like the Liz Jones article this week - there's a thread somewhere - 'As a feminist I've always looked down on mumsy types....' plus childless women are mad sperm stealers whom you just can't trust.

Is the Wright Stuff a show for people a bit (whispers) thick, not in UK so don't know...

and you're absolutely right about the men you're trying to get on side with being the men who can't stand women anyway at core.

Yes, this wanting to be "one of the lads" nonsense.

If you need to be one of the lads to be accepted, then actually, you are not being accepted.

god that made no sense as a lump got cut out somehow. was saying they construct their ID and sexual/social currency on not being like 'other' women somehow.

it's a sad fact that some women see their sexual (and social if they choose to largely inhabit a world of men and give low value to females) currency - their identity is around not being a womany woman or offensive to men in any way.

i have been chatted up by men who think we're all like this and that slagging off other women to me and telling me how different i was to them (not neurotic, bitchy, desperate, pathetic, needy etc etc etc etc of charm) and actually thought this would be endearing to me but it clearly worked for them usually.

Yes I think those sort of women are desperate not to be disliked by men.

They don't realise that the sort of men who would dislike them for standing up for their humanity, are exactly the sort of men, who despise them anyway and don't think of them as being really human in the same way men are.

That's the tragedy - the men they're desperately seeking approval from, are the men who are never going to rate them anyway, because they're just women. They are utterly oblivious to that, they are utterly unaware of the pointlessness of trying to curry favour with misogynists.

boys grow up wanting to be super heroes (emulating their dolls) girls grow up wanting to be a plastic doll with pointy tits and a waxy clean, no evidence of their sexual maturity, fanjo - like their dolls.

but surely we grow the fuck out of it!?

they don't mean princesses in the real sense though do they? they mean the plastic doll barbie. princessification actually means barbie-fication.

it is infantile. and women sitting around saying i don't mind being called a bird is adolescent posturing of i wanna be the one the boys like. seriously ridiculous.

i think it's ok to view some of these women as childish and stupid because newsflash some people ARE childish and stupid, male and female. should the choices of stupid people really be the determiners of our culture and standards?

please no!

The thing is, when I hear infantile nonsense like that, I just want to personally insult people, which I know is unreasonable and ineffective.

But it is thick to dream of being a princess, if you are over the age of 8.

It is just thick.

Isn't it? AIBU

I caught a bit of this, specifically when the crazy bint in the audience started talking about fat hairy lesbians. Utter wank.

And yes to what WiF said.

"every girl's dream" - fuck right off. Patriarchal-proscribed femininity (and masculinity) is just so damaging. And childish, actually. It's about time we (as a society) grew the fuck up. It's all just so limiting.

Yes another lightbulb moment for me too