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not a nice topic, but been annoying me all day

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ButWhyIsTheGinGone · 24/09/2011 17:39

Hello All,

I've been dithering whether to post this as it's not really an "issue," and it's not the nicest of subjects, but I've been thinking about it all day.
After reading and watching the fantastic "Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" film, I was talking with a male friend in the pub about the horiffic scene where Lisbeth Salander (possibly my favourite fictional character ever) was attacked and anally raped by her guardian.

This led to a discussion bout how appalling an act that is, at which my friend claimed it would be far "worse for a man." I couldn't quite believe this and he said he couldn't explain it and I "really wouldn't understand." At this point a second man (drunk and not intelligent) pointed out that "women do it all the time." I didn't even acknowledge this fairly disgusting comment and the conversation changed.

But it's been bugging me all day. My friend is a sensible and intelligent man and would never say anything to deliberatly hurt or offend, but this view has shocked me and got me thinking. If a woman who has previously had consensual anal intercourse is attacked in this way....is it less "horiffic" than if a man is similarly attacked who has not?

Would be interested to hear any opinions - I'm no feminist expert but am lurkng around this board a lot more and finding a lot of the discussion really interesting.

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AlysWorld · 24/09/2011 17:47

Sorry to hear that OP.

I imagine there's two things going on. They are suggesting that because anal sex for men is associated with homosexuality, it would be worse for them if they are heterosexual. And mixing up rape with sex. People frequently do do so, and describe rape in terms of being sex but just a bit more forceful. When in reality it is an act of violence. Sadly there are a lot of rape myths out there, and people do spout them unthinkingly or thinkingly. Here's a blog post that talks about the mixing up sex and rape thing.

Dolallytats · 24/09/2011 17:46

Hi
Although it is not better or worse for either sex (and what a weird thing for your friend to think!!), I think maybe he has that view because male rape is not really spoken about and maybe this is why it is seen as worse??

Jaquelinehyde · 24/09/2011 17:44

Surely rape is rape regardless of sexual experience/orientation.

Just because you have consented to any form of sexual behaviour does not then make it more acceptable/less traumatic to force that sexual act on to that person.

I think your friend is being an utter fool.