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In light of MNHQ's recent statement that the feminism section is in fact not a feminism section but a section 'about' feminism, perhaps we need to be warning people about this up front?

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Beachcomber · 22/09/2011 08:50

I'm of the opinion that it needs to made clear that whilst the title may be 'feminism/women's rights', this section is quite different to other boards that deal with feminism/women's rights.

It isn't fair to mislead - lots of posters expect the section to be a place where feminist views can be freely explored without fear of posters' mental health being questioned, and a zone where misogyny is unwelcome. In reality, pretty much anything goes here and whilst it is, of course, MNHQ's prerogative to run their site as they see fit, some sort of disclaimer about the section seems only fair in order to forewarn posters (especially posters looking for support or exploration of sensitive issues).

Perhaps it would be an idea for there to be a header at the top of the section stating MNHQ's position?

All suggestions welcomed Smile.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 27/09/2011 08:18

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WhollyGhost · 27/09/2011 08:09

"well i get it, but i think that if this is who you are dealing with then a message at the top of the board isn't going to deter them. can HQ delete fast enough, even if they are inclined to do so?"

Yes, HQ can delete posts very quickly. As the thread LRD linked to shows. But from the perspective of many lurkers like me - it is often the wrong ones that are being deleted - the responses to the trolls, rather than the trolls, and it is not just in this section.

I really wish they went back to the old policy which seemed to be not deleting stuff unless illegal. It meant that it was easier to see what was going on.

I've learned a lot from this board, though I've not been a regular poster here. I think it is time that I stopped being a regular poster anywhere on MN.

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/09/2011 08:07

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LindsayWagner · 27/09/2011 08:01

"Leave me alone. You have no idea as to what I think. Your post is offensive.

Why do these people always have to get so personal?"

Jaysus. HOW was my post personal? It wasn't about you at all, it was about the way that language can mean vastly different things to different people.

Your previous post implied that I was calling you names, which I wasn't. I wasn't calling anyone names.

Who are 'these people', beachcomber? If you're equating me with derailers from misandry.com, that's unfair and intellectually dishonest.

AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 01:07

YAY! one down... Grin it's a sad loss to feminism, to womankind and to humanity, but Aitch is happy so 'raaaah!

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 01:04

good night all

see yas around on the relationships board, and chat, and AIBU, and all the others in fact Smile

Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 01:03

Wine you dobber not [thanksycheapyfuneralfuckingflowers]

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AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 01:00

Thanks ?

Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:59

I won't AF.

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:58

excellent! Grin double bubble.

Prolesworth · 27/09/2011 00:56

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:56

awesomely ungracious x-post there, prolesy. Grin

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:56

BC, you will be glad to see the back of me Grin

AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:55

yes what is the story with the flowers? was there a POLL? hq seems v fond of polls these days. i'd have voted no. [hayfever]

Prolesworth · 27/09/2011 00:55

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AitchTwoOh · 27/09/2011 00:54

and rather bizarrely, you now find yourselves the target of even more name-calling and nastiness than you ever did. incidentally, when this board started, i distinctly remember dittany saying that she wondered how long it would take to be colonised by misogynist weirdos, or words to that effect, and i genuinely wondered what the hell she was on about. now i know.

i do not have a fucking clue what is to be done about it, though. to get rid of this board would feel like a retrograde step, but it hasn't actually achieved what was hoped. but that was because of utter tossers for the most part so would it feel worse to capitulate? gawd.

all i know is that i stopped visiting, because it all seemed very angsty and aggressive. (and, well, if i'm honest, there were a couple of big hitters who were imo off putting, one of whom kinda chased me around the boards a bit. not dittany, in case you were thinking that.)

Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:54

Fuck of with those flowers already.

It feels like a fucking funeral otherwise.

I will graciously accept a Wine but the flowers are just morbid (and a bit cheap looking).

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Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:51

You are fucking mega on here though Grin

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AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:51

Thanks for you, BC Grin

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:50

isn't ?

is ?

I dunno, it's late

AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:49

not that the rest of Mn is getting on quite nicely without me, of course Smile

Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:48

AF Sad

Fair enough though hen.

I'm nearly there myself.

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AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:47

aitch has a point

speaking personally, when I am wasting time with the oxygen-thieves on here, I am not elsewhere

and I have wasted a lot of time on oxygen-thieves recently, that is for sure

Beachcomber · 27/09/2011 00:46

Aitch problem is we got called names on the main board or felt that we wanted to discuss things that not everybody welcomed. (We was hardcore redfems who hated men and took offensive too easily).

So we asked if we could have a wee space where we could hang out and chew the feminist fat.

And then we got called names here too.

And now we are kind of done with being called names (and trolled and stalked and insulted and baited and slagged off).

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AnyFucker · 27/09/2011 00:44

For the record, this board has done me a whole world of good

Until very recently Sad

Apart from the out'n'out weirdos whom I can easily laugh at (and frequently do), this board has been picked and picked away at, along with individual posters, which is way out of line

Some of it's best contributors have decided to distance themselves from it

Some of it's other best contributors are hanging on for grim death

I am in good company Smile

I don't want to be targeted. My professional life would not survive it. I will not risk that for anything. I seem unable to keep my big gob shut when it would be prudent to do so, hence best to remove myself.