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That goes both ways. Others on this board should not be hounded off by being subject to insults

We're not allowed to call out trolls, edd...

And I agree with what BIWI said. Why should we have to hide? Isn't that another way for men to silence women?

Why would it solve it, Bob? People would just join to get round it.

And why the fuck should the feminist boards be forced to go private? Surely if that happens then the trolls/derailers have won?

All this stalking people round MN, other sites must qualify as harrassment, and that is a illegal, is it not?

I think that this is not being taken seriously enough by MNHQ in your desire to be fair, open and liberal.

Other posters have the right to post views that I disagree with. They categorically do not have the right to hound people around the internet.

You don't know SinicalSal? Trolls get mentioned byt never by name. I bet these trolls don't exist

Can we also have like buttons added to posts?

Gosh i don't know edd

Who are these trolls?

I agree with what the recent posters have been saying. People are being personally attacked and targeted. And this has been reported repeatedly. For anyone who didn't see this at the time, the stated intention of the trolls was to come and drive Dittany off here. It wasn't just go and wind up some feminists for fun. This is individual targeting. And the latest post was doing the same to Sakura and stalking her across the internet. So letting them come here and do this, with some idea of hearing different voices, doesn't wash it. These aren't different voices, these are people personally targeting individuals.

^ What they said.

I'd like to third that. Well said DontCallMe.

A feminist board that has to spend half its time defending feminist values (and posters) against rape apology/rape jokes/misogynistic insults and posts about Doing Feminism Wrong is a fucking joke.

This board used to be interesting and valuable - it still is to some degree, but if this goes on then it won't be for much longer.

I'd like to second DCMFD's post. I would also like to point out that this is the second time Dittany has been targeted on these boards in the last few months. This is not even remotely acceptable even a self moderated site such as this.

As far as I can see it, MN and the feminist section in particular annoys certain people to a such a great extent that they are prepared to spend days, if not weeks hanging about being offensive about feminism and women in general, and certain feminists in particular. This outrage even seems to lead them to dedicate sites to continuing this labour outside MN. I am aware that MN's options are limited in dealing with this. However, it would be more reassuring if MN would agree to review its guidlines in the light of this situation.

dittany, I wanted to say this last time you left.

You and I have clashed on a few occassions. On other occassions I've agreed wholeheartedly with what you say. BUT when you left, to me, that sent out the wrong message in a way. To me, one of the strongest and most influential voices was silenced, and I didn't like that. It was because of something you said that I checked out this section of Mumsnet, and during that time, this section has helped me come to terms with a lot. When you left last time, I couldn't help but think "if they can silence one of the strongest views on here, then what help do the rest of us have?"

MNHQ, please take note. We shouldn't have individuals here who are put off from posting because we're being targeted. So far, I've only been "mentioned" on that website once, and I felt violated by that. For the trolls to be able to come in here so easily, and abuse our POV's, make rape jokes, tell us to "focus our attentions elsewhere", etc... That's an even greater violation, as it often seems to take so long for MN to respond. We're stuck in a limbo where we're told to ignore the trolls, but if we turn our backs for a couple of hours, they'd willingly post post after post of misogyny, rape apology, MRA targets and victim blaming. Now, I'm all up for sensible discussion, but not the potentially damaging posts we've seen recently. I'm also not up for being told that our views are those of "drippy feminists", or that we're all men hating, fire breathing evil beings. We're not. :(

It's shitty- I hope they wise up to all this and delete and ban. Posting here is a privilege, not a human right, and I think HQ need to be a bit more stringent when a section and an individual like dittany is being targeted.