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GloriaVanderbilt · 14/09/2011 16:53

Hello,

I just reported a thread started by 'Dittony' which had a title attacking another poster and provided a link to a blog post.

It looked like a few others had reported it too as they had posted on it.

However in A/C there is another thread with the same title, which when you click on it takes you to a page saying 'error: thread deleted at OP's request'.

The OP however would appear to be someone who posted on the first thread, but not the same person who started it.

So can anyone please clarify what happened here...assuming the second thread was not posted by the same person as the first, (which has now gone) under a namechange?

(really hope not!)

OP posts:
edd1337 · 15/09/2011 13:16

Frothy: Works both ways on an open forum where there is free speech. If someone can give shit and not take it then the internet isn't for them

LRD: I never attacked you. I just asked you to enlighten us with your technical expertise and that you came accross as a bit rude. Doesn't seem like an attack on you

Beachcomber · 15/09/2011 13:16

I don't engage with Edd directly and would prefer him not to address me.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 13:16
Grin

And that is reason 1 of fuck knows how many that I love dittany. Right there.

RealityVonCrapp · 15/09/2011 13:15

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DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 13:14

edd, when you're backed up against a wall, sometimes all you can do is lash out.

You've missed half, maybe three quarters of the abuse dittany has received over the past few months.

I think she's more than entitled to act in any manner she feels fit to defend herself.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 13:13

edd, I am still very upset at your nasty and uncalled for attack on me. I think you are just attacking dittany because you do not want to explain why you attacked me for a post that was very lighthearted and nice. It is very hypocritical to suggest someone else is being immature when you are doing this ganging up on me nonsense.

HereBeBolloX · 15/09/2011 13:13

I haven't dished out anything Bob I've hardly spokent o you.

I think you're prob well meaning and hopefully not a troll, but sometimes you come across as really self pitying and self-important.

Sorry but you do. People take the piss out of you not because you're a man, but because you're a bit... well, whiney tbh. People don't take the piss out of lots of other men on here.

You've said you've given up on feminism. Whcih is giving up on women, because feminism is about women being not being considered secondary to men.

I got mugged by black people years ago, but that doesn't mean that I've stopped supporting anti-racism. My belief in equality isn't dependent on randoms I meet on the interweb or RL, either you believe in equality or you don't and you don't turn your back on a principle because you meet people who piss you off. Saying you do, sounds like a) you're whiney and b) you didn't mean it int he first place.

Sorry if you don't want to hear that. But if you're sincere, you'll give it some consideration,.

edd1337 · 15/09/2011 13:11

Perhaps dittany could look at her own behaviour as well Beach. She has also acted very immature when posters have opposed her and resorted to insults and false allegations

You learn at a young: If you can't take it back then don't dish it out

Beachcomber · 15/09/2011 13:09

SQ what we can do is stand up and be counted and defend dittany. If we want her to stay around we need to speak out against ganging up and bullying when it is happening.

Beachcomber · 15/09/2011 13:07

Dittany I know you have been putting up with a LOT of shit on MN. Please don't go because of posters like Reality and Hully though Sad.

The trolls are another thing like you say.

If they do show up, I'm off out now but I think there are a lot of posters who should be ashamed of the way they have treated dittany. And I think it needs to stop.

SardineQueen · 15/09/2011 13:07

But this is terrible.

What can we do?

It was awful here when you were away Dittany Sad So many threads with people getting confused and saying "I wish Dittany were here"

And I miss Sakura too.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 13:03

Can't we give them a one way ticket to Atlantis instead?

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 13:02

Give the trolls a one way ticket to Coventry.

BobBanana · 15/09/2011 13:01

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 15/09/2011 12:58

I can see why you are upset and I would be too. It's crap and it's out of line to start threads about you and attack you personally, dittany. And the trolling is awful. Obviously people are going to challenge other people's posts, and obviously on a forum we all use, avoiding someone isn't a sensible option - but I can see why it feels like the last straw. I am really, really grateful for your posts and especially the support on my recent thread, so I hope you don't go. I can understand why you would want to though - not your job to constantly be a punch bag, and HQ doesn't seem to be doing a lot to stop it. Sad

HereBeBolloX · 15/09/2011 12:57

I can't believe Avril Lavigne got divorced.

I thought she was about 15

MarginallyNarkyPuffin · 15/09/2011 12:57

Dittany, the obvious trolls can be ignored. They troll for attention. If they don't get it they eventually go away. If there are regular MNers continually derailing threads because they are anti-feminist then they can be dealt with the same way.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 15/09/2011 12:55

x-posted with dittany.

You are never on your own, here. I'm sad you feel thaat you need to leave, but to me, it highlights the liberal approach that MNHQ are taking where trolls are concerned.

I do hope that MN do find a way to resolve the issue, because we shouldn't be losing one of our most valued members. Not this way, anyway.

I sincerely hope this isn;t the last we've seen of you dittany. And if you see this, I'd like to thank you for being one of the most eye opening posters here, and, like many of the others, a true inspiration

Take care x

edd1337 · 15/09/2011 12:55

Why so hostile?

HereBeBolloX · 15/09/2011 12:53

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HereBeBolloX · 15/09/2011 12:52

"going onto a board where you are forever subjected to the other members telling you that you and anything you say is completely meaningless because you're a woman. Give it a couple of weeks of that, and then come and tell me about how the other members were just making jokes."

Boohoo... Try giving that a lifetime in real life. And yet, none of us say that we've had it with men and couldn't care less now if men become decent people who stop trying to hold on to their unearned privilege, we're just going to give up on talking to them or living with them. We continue to engage with them, love them, have sex with them, cook their meals, eat with them, sleep with them, etc.

I guess it's just because we must be better people than you.

edd1337 · 15/09/2011 12:51

Come along now dittany I thought you were stronger than that. You're admitting defeat because someone behind a keyboard is mocking you?