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The reaction of some men to intelligent women on University Challenge.

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NarkyPuffinLovesDiane · 07/09/2011 15:45

Here and

here.

Please discuss and/or link to any good articles.

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 21:58

It's not surprising, but it is something we can hope to change. I am looking forward, for example, to seeing that guy who's sueing LSE get handed his arse. Grin

The thread about women being expected to do themselves down (I forget the title) is a huge part of why girls who've been successful in school become women who struggle more at university.

dittany · 07/09/2011 21:43

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 21:38

I agree, SGM. Results at school don't seem to be matched by degree results. It seems almost as if we're training girls up to do well right up to where, for this generation, they're told it matters most. Then they must step to one side and let the boys win.

StewieGriffinsMom · 07/09/2011 21:36

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dittany · 07/09/2011 21:32

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 21:31

Yes - there's that absurd Bullingdon Club picture of Cameron and his mates, isn't there? Men who've been trained up to think it is only right and proper women should be excluded from their special men-only societies.

(Sorry, I am aware you must be wondering why I bother posting here ... I know.)

dittany · 07/09/2011 21:30

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edd1337 · 07/09/2011 21:29

Stop addressing mine then

dittany · 07/09/2011 21:28

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edd1337 · 07/09/2011 21:27

You addressed mine did you not? If you'd have not wanted a response you'd have ignored me would you not?

I have already said that if you do not like me posting, ignore it

LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 21:26

dittany - true. Apparently, the last men's college at Cambridge to go mixed, went in 1987 ... and they carried coffins through the halls and wore black armbands. Hmm

The ratio of male to female professors is still awful.

dittany · 07/09/2011 21:25

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edd1337 · 07/09/2011 21:24

Dittany, I am allowed to post here as much as you. MNHQ themselves said so. If you have a problem then ignore me. I am allowed to object or have a difference of opinion to whoever I wish

Thankyou

dittany · 07/09/2011 21:22

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edd1337 · 07/09/2011 21:20

Wrong. Females are suprpassing males in GCSE and A-level grades. Men are doing nothing to stop that

Yes there is a number of men that do, but not all men do

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WoTmania · 07/09/2011 20:26

I think what annoys me most is the way so much is made of their appearance, whether positive or negative. I suppose it's a way of putting them back in their place as objects.
It reminds me of an article I read ages ago about sports people and how the commentators contrate ont he memn and how many records they've broken and what they SB, PB and TBs all are but the women they also comment on 'lovely lass, sweet nature, porbably be starting a family' type stuff too.

edd1337 · 07/09/2011 20:06

This has nothing to so with men feeling threatened because an intelligent woman is threataning their status

This is about social attitudes and men seeing women as objects. Something that should change ideally but not in this lifetime

LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 19:57

I think she did, Sybil! I was there when she was in her last year and she was known as something special before UT.

Narky - Merton, with the poncey name (can't remember now ... there may be othrs with poncey names). He did my wedding photos. Smile

SybilBeddows · 07/09/2011 19:51

She wouldn't have stood out as a clever woman at Oxford because Oxford is full of clever women. Obviously she would have been at the top end of the distribution, but it wouldn't make her unusual enough to attract attention.
Clever women on tv, OTOH, or at least ones who don't hide their brains or do extra simpering to compensate, are pretty rare.

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NarkyPuffinLovesDiane · 07/09/2011 19:18

Ah Blush. She did go to an all girls senior school though, so perhaps she was sheltered from some of it.

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STIDW · 07/09/2011 18:50

NarkyPuffinLovesDiane wrote;

^'It seems Gail Trimble didn't experience problems at school or university'

Do you know her? Did I miss that in the article?^

You missed it!

"Miss Trimble - bespectacled, with long brown hair and a beaming, dimpled smile - said she had been taken aback by the hostility, after experiencing no such problems at school or university." The Times article

Hullygully · 07/09/2011 18:43

good point. like old Lady Beard

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NarkyPuffinLovesDiane · 07/09/2011 18:42

Mind you some of them have the entire internet at their disposal and set up blogs/fora for their bile. And still no-one else comes to talk to them. So I have some hope left for humanity.

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