Can you be a feminist housewife?

would you pay home alone housewife when kids at school
isnt that just doing nowt,if the children are away

yes and child care doesnt need to be parents,can be paid for and undertaken by cm,nanny,nursery

children need care- yes
housewife need payment - no,not at all

and again child carers there are v specific criteria and assessment and statutory duties from LA to the minor who is a carer

do you accept state has specific criteria and eligibility of what carer is

would you continue pay housewife when kids at school

It's a different issue because it's cheaper government/electorate have decided it's a different issue. Were child carers to be classed as carers, then it would be the same issue. Small children need care. That at least isn't debatable.

a housewife is nit carer,and esp not when kids at school and free nursery 15pw. when kids at school would you still pay housewife to do what all day

carer is defined by state in quite an exacting and specific way with eligibility criteria.so no a carer is not simply a carer a carer.that would be incorrect

in this context people are discussing paying sahm wage.if people bandy terms like wage and job about in terms off housewifery they are way off mark.and yes if you want a wage,get a job.dont expoect state payment for watching your own kids.paying housewifes is not statutory requirement.

im not discussing carers or carers assessment that a whole diff statutory and assessed differently issue,carers and carers assessments are complex and have specific eligibility criteria

Hmm SAF. That is effectively similar to how it works for my sister, who is a lone parent, working FT, who gets the bulk of her nursery fees paid for in tax credits, or who would get pretty much the same in benefits if she didn't have a job.

Would it be state childcare, and pay again for private (like schools?).

Or vouchers (with top ups payable where the provider is pricey?)

Again, would just the tax credit, worth less than the cost of your child in childcare, make you anything like approaching economic independence? Would you get a credit for every child, equivalent to the extra childcare?

I had 7 years as a SAHM and was happy to do this as we both wanted one of us to be at home when the DCs were small. We had a choice - me or him - but he earned more than me so we chose for me to be the SAHP.

Because we got together in our 30s, we both had built up our careers and I was OK with stepping back from mine for a while. I happily picked it up again at 40 and had the best years in my 40s with several promotions.

Financially, we used joint savings to tide us over the 7 years without my salary. We also had a system where all money went into a joint account for all joint spending. Then we each had our own bank accounts for "pocket money" for our own private use - exactly the same amount for each of us.

Then, after I went back to work, DH became disabled and he has spent the last 15 years as SAHP with no earnings apart from a small pension. The financial system has continued in the same way.

I don't feel that either of us has had a raw deal from this. Or the DCs.

But whether it would be possible to work like this these days with present housing costs, I'm not sure.

yes and women too need to individually plan and not be wholly dependent upon someone else.and not expect a supplementary payment whilst economically inactive as housewife

you want a wage?get a job

DH and I agreed to use his salary (from our joint account - I am using the 'his money' thing in the context of this thread only!) to top up my pension and pay to get an extra qualification while I was a SAHM, hence possibly my rather privileged take on it all.

Pooled childcare and flexible working isn't improving the lot of the full time SAHM though Lenin? It's making WOH more appealing to women?

you know my stance,lenin.sahm is not a job,and no doesnt require a salary nor state interventions to invoke a payment.if a couple chose to make a private,personal arrangement that is their business.not the state

the notion of sahm payment is untenable,unworkable,too costly

and id advise anyone considering sahm to weigh up pros and cons.its precarious and risky

my own personal choice is ft work, separate accounts for salary and joined salary for all shared expenses

plenty studies.working mums have better mental health than non working mums and higher satisfaction scores.and less depression

its the kind of argument initiated by herB which i agree with. as she says 3/5 men dont pay maintenance and state cant enforce that,so another payment is deduction likely to fail

oh it was raise status i see.menat to say that
as status must be derived from salary? even someone else salary it seems
if you want your status raising go sort something for yourself,dont expect a state payment to ameliorate any perceived low status