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Can you be a feminist housewife?

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wigglybeezer · 30/08/2011 14:00

Can you be a feminist if you don't have a career but your DH does, especially if this situation has been going on for a long time (13 years in my case)?

I don't feel downtrodden by the way, merely a bit bored and lacking in choice ATM. I earn a small amount of money, so don't have to ask DH for everything but I'm wondering if my Granny (who was a hospital consultant) was a better feminist than me. I just found a photo of her and her pals at medical school where she has noted on the back that there were 18 female medical students out of 180!

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beckybrastraps · 01/09/2011 00:04

Well, quite. That was sort of my point.

Look, I'm not advocating state payment for SAHPs. I've said more than once on this thread that I think it would be expensive and ineffective at meeting the intended goals apart from any other issues.

I just like mulling things over is all.

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scottishmummy · 01/09/2011 00:00

eligibility criteria can be changed.yes
imposing demand for more papework, medical assessment,interview is utilised to decrease demand. as has happened under current gov

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:58

quite simply demand more from state=pay highr taxes and ni. the state is at breaking point at moment without unnecessary additional financial burden of paying housewives.is a private individual act,negotiable between parties involved.no need for state remuneration or involvement.at all

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:54

The state is funded through taxation. Were this to happen, we would need to pay more tax. I'm pretty sure that was brought up in one of the posts suggesting it, so people aren't avoiding the issue. Your posts about eligibility did not reflect your perfect grasp perhaps, as they made you sound like it the critera themselves were immutable and not that the "state", presumably the government we elect (kind of) can change criteria if they so decide and try to fund the consequences in a number of ways.

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:49

your argument is flawed,could drive a bus through it
society can define anything.purely subjective
but its state that pays
and state has finite resources and too many statutory demands already.without paying housewives

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:46

oh rattle,pram time
cheerie then

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:45

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:44

i have absolute grasp on eligibility criteria and funding mechanism and economics

i fear others here do not

and saying oh well society defines carers
a carer is carer is a carer
is lame and does nothing to address or acknowledge that actually state imposes criteria and eligibility to prevent drain and demand upon finite resources

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:40

Well yes, but your refrain of "the criteria, the criteria" did rather suggest that it was the definition you were struggling with rather than the economics.

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:36

if govt and nhs, la changed eligibility criteria for many services they simply could not pay

criteria are put there to try limit amount of claims
remove criteria likely increase claims =more money
there simply isnt enough money

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:34

no full circle.keep up read the thread

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:33

I think the idea would be that the government changed the eligibility criteria...

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:33

well of course you dont get paid if you dont do agency/contract work. thats how the workd turns.what are you suggestion payment for not working? would you pay housewives be home alone,kids at school

startAfire · 31/08/2011 23:33

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beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:33

I don't think I'd pay anyone actually. I'm just chewing the fat.

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:32

criteria is a filtering and assessment mechanism as state simply cannot afford huge benefits bill if people assert its a carer,its a housewife- and demand now cough up

LeninGrad · 31/08/2011 23:30

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scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:30

would you pay a housewife home alone,kids school

beckybrastraps · 31/08/2011 23:30

I'm sure there are very specific criteria but I don't think changing eligibility criteria is without precedent!

scottishmummy · 31/08/2011 23:29

frankly people can apply subjective definitions whenever they wish,doesnt make it accurate. the statutory definition of carer is specific and has eligibility criteria prior to state payment

so any amount of socialsciencetastic oh its a carer,its acarer can be applied.doent make it so.nor guarantee agreement.or from your pov a guaranteed remuneration

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