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MrsReasonable · 26/08/2011 17:50

I've noticed that whenever a 'non-feminist' view is brought up, there are occasionally some posts along the lines of 'this is a feminist board, why come here if you aren't...', etc.

Genuine question - is this a feminist board, or a board about feminism? Obviously the majority of posters are feminist, but I'm not sure whether that is because feminists (surprise surprise) like discussing feminism, or because it is seen as a feminist 'safe haven'?

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SinicalSal · 27/08/2011 00:02

It's the intention really.
I've come out with acouple of antifeminist gems myself - thoughtlessness mostly - and have been challenged. But not snidely because I don't go round trying to go Gotcha! at people. Some people are waiting for the chance to pick holes in a gleeful way. That's different to properly engaging and finding holes and arguing ones own point in a respectful way.

TheRealMBJ · 26/08/2011 19:08

Oh and I meant to add that it is fine to expect an honest (not shit stirring IYKWIM) post to discussed BUT discussion dies not mean agreement. A discussion of a pov may very well mean challenging and disagreeing with it.

True trolling and shit stirring is only effectively dealt with by ignoring the poster, so a post is being taken seriously and responded to surely it has become part of the debate?

giyadas · 26/08/2011 19:07

I think it depends on the level of anti-feminism. Some arguments put forward have been discussed over and over for many years and the discussion are easily available online so to bring them up again here really is no different to simple derailing, but I think slightly more complex arguements are treated as valid, if only to discuss to strengthen the arguements against IYSWIM (garbled)

LeninGrad · 26/08/2011 19:04

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TheRealMBJ · 26/08/2011 19:02

I think it depends on the way in which the 'anti-feminist' stance is put forward. But IME there is very little space on MN in general for a truly anti-feminist pov anyway. You're likely to get a bolloxing for that anywhere on the forum.

MrsReasonable · 26/08/2011 18:57

I'm not talking about derailment into non-feminist areas, I'm wondering if anti-feminist posts will be taken as part of a discussion about feminism/feminist issues, or rejected for not following a pro-feminist stance. I know from experience that some posters demand pro-feminist stances - not common, but sometimes.

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TheCrackFox · 26/08/2011 18:56

So long as the chickens are proclaimed feminists then I have no issue with them.

However I do not have any time for the CRA (Cockerel Rights Activists), they can piss off with their attention seeking behaviour.

TheRealMBJ · 26/08/2011 18:51

I agree with Len et al. This is a feminist board and posters should expect that subjects will be treated from a feminist pov. This does not mean that there cannot be reasonable debate but attempts to derail and or change the subject will not be welcome. Much like discussing ponies in the wolef freds

giyadas · 26/08/2011 18:48

HerBeX - I think some of the clashes are where people are coming at equality from different angles, but sometimes to treat 2 people exactly the same disadvantages one of them. The AHD made no mention of this.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:47

I did have one male friend who thought feminism was a sexual fetish... Grin

And hey, Mardy... This skirt is not an invitation to rape... Sigh... The yoof of today!

MardyBra · 26/08/2011 18:43

It's your fault for dressing like a provocative Dragon.

HerBeX · 26/08/2011 18:42

I'm not sure the American Heritage Dictionary is the most reliable source for defining feminism.

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:39

Oh aye? Leaving with me, Mardy? Must be asking for it Grin

Jeeesus, I meant the number for a reputable taxi company... Get your minds out of the gutters... Wink

LeninGrad · 26/08/2011 18:38

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MardyBra · 26/08/2011 18:36
Wink
DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:36

Pffft, those chickens should know their place...

in the kitchen

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:35

Don't be an arse? Fuck. Does that mean I have to leave?

MardyBra · 26/08/2011 18:34

Those chickens need to put high heels and a bit of make up on, if they want to look attractive...

LeninGrad · 26/08/2011 18:34

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ChickensHaveNoEyebrows · 26/08/2011 18:33

My chickens wear flares. But they don't have armpits. Because they don't have arms.

giyadas · 26/08/2011 18:33

no, I'm genuinely all 'what about the duckz?' which are clearly better than chickens who are aggressive and smell, though I manage daily not to go to chicken keepers and tell them so, cos it's rude Wink
despite the slurs about lying ducks made openly here Shock

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:32

yup. No wonder the ducks don't want to mate with them. :(

MardyBra · 26/08/2011 18:30

Do the chickens all wear dungarees and have hairy armpits?

DontCallMeFrothyDragon · 26/08/2011 18:29

Grin It's a dig at the MRA types, who come on here asking "what about the menz?"

either that or the keyboard fairy has stolen my "s" button

LeninGrad · 26/08/2011 18:28

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