Why are so many obs/gynae doctors male??

I really can't believe that the figure is 98%. I work with ob/gynae drs and would have thought it's much more like 50/50. In fact where I work on the new intake every registrar is female - all eight of them. But most intakes are 50/50. Though obviously this is one hospital but I'd have thought it was fairly representative.

A third of the consultants are female.

If the figures nationally do show more men I'd have thought it could be because it's such a family unfriendly speciality. Having to work nights, weekends in a way that a gp doesn't and even that some hospital drs don't.

When I worked at a medical school, I wondered about this too, thinking it was a throwback to the patriarchy in this day and age. I asked some (female medic) colleagues and the response was that a.) it's much tougher for women to get to consultant level than men in any field and b.) a lot of women don't go for obstetrics / gynae because it has very anti-family hours (ironically). Midwife numbers are under pressure for a similar reason - high stress and irregular hours.

Childbirth is very unpredictable unlike being e.g. a dermatologist or endocrinologist where people turn up with x symptoms, are diagnosed and any surgery is scheduled and relatively low-risk. With childbirth, outcomes are unpredictable and you can go from having a fully healthy mother and foetus to seriously ill / dying mother and baby in a matter of hours or less. Claims for medical malpractice are common. Also labour wards have patient throughput that peaks and troughs unpredictably so leaving work on time is often out of the question. Personally, the obstetrician I've been seeing is top of her field, on government regulation committees, trains obstetricians and monographers etc - and still managed to have 3 children! I think she is some kind of superhuman though - she skydives and sails and rock-climbs as well....

EandM - don't know. I'm a cock-eyed-optimist, but I don't suppose that counts.

because it is a surgical speciality. Surgical specialities are less compatible with family life, not only during training but also when you are a consultant - an obstetric consultant will be called in for emergencies at any time during the day or night throughout their career wheras a GP for example only has to do a few years in hospital then if they so choose they will never work a night or a weekend ever again.
It's harder to go part time in a surgical speciality than jobs such as general medicine because often elective operating lists will be only on some days of the week - if the prolapse repair list is on tuesday and you only work mon, wed and fri because you are also bringing up a family, you will never get good at operating on prolapses (very simplified but hope you can see what I am getting at)

I get so annoyed at people who think that men go into obs and gynae because they get a sexual thrill from looking at womens bits/intimidate women or whatever the hell else gets posted on here sometimes.
( I also get pissed off that people think I am a paediatrician because I am a girl who likes playing with babies (I am training to be a paeds intensive care doctor -most of my patients are unconscious and ventilated so it's not really that fluffy!))

Doctors choose their speciality based on what they are good at, what kind of career they want (hands on vs office based), what they are interested in the pathology and physiology of. As it happens, although there are a lot of men in O&G as it is a surgical speciality, I think there are proportionally more female O&G surgeons than there are female surgeons in other specialities, that's certainly the case in my experience though I have no stats to back it up

I wish I knew, but I don't trust them.

Until last week, when I actually met the consultant I have been assigned in both pg and have never met before, who listened to me, had an intelligent discussion and agreed that I could have an active VBAC. Better than his ridiculous young, female junior doc wh, asked me, as I was throwing up, in my 9th week of hyperemisis, drip in arm, wee the colour of tea, if I had tried easting ginger biscuits.......

The pathway to being a consultant is not especially relevant, if as the OP says, 98% of the obs/gyne consultants are men but this doesn't happen in other hospital specialities. There is something else going on, isn't there?

I think if I were a doctor I would avoid it because it is almost too obvious a choice for a woman doctor.

I'd like to know too. What proportion of willyologists are women?

shoutymomma.

I asked a male obs/gynae friend this once, and he said that he felt that a lot of medicine was about keeping people alive to ever greater ages or in the face of long odds. He of course valued that work, but he said he wanted to spend more time dealing with younger people at a very different and interesting, exciting time of their lives, albeit one with its own intense heartbreak at times. He was lovely, I'm sure he is brilliant.

Obviously that's a one-off anecdote, which in no way explains an imbalance beyond what is endemic in the consultant tier.

I'm not sure that there are more male obs/gyn than other surgical specialities though, are there?

It's not working hours IME, it is the fact that the path to being a hospital consultant is made very, very difficult for women. It is a long and uncertain process too and although not impossible (many individuals do manage it) it is very difficult to combine having a family and a training post.

Shoutymomma
Is it really 98%? thats exceptionally high

Men have a head start as they are more likely to have had a good look at a fanny much sooner. (I'd fail the exams because, only ever having seen one in a mirror, I'd lable all the bits backwards.)

A vocation? A friend of mine asked me this recently and I honestly hadn't thought of it. I'm pregnant with my first child and all three consultants in my hospital are male, I'm sorry I have no other answers for you. I will watch this thread with interest though

Is it possible that the high level of female GPs compared to hospital based specialties is due to working hours?

Most of the female GPs that I've ever had/seen have been part time, and it tends to be more male GPs that work at the Out of Hours service here.

Because they are consultants and climing the career ladder in the uK is made very difficult for female hospital doctors.