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So because I'm anti-porn and don't think seven year olds should be encouraged to join glamour modelling...

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DontCallMePeanut · 06/08/2011 00:46

A friend has labelled me a conservative feminist?

This was following a conversation about this article aboout which I said I thought any mother encouraging her child to join (when she's older) the glamour modelling industry was irresponsible.

Apparently, the fact I'm anti-porn and against encouraging glamour modelling means I'm an "Ultra conservative feminist"... Oh, and anti-sex. (That's the opposite of sex positive feminism, isn't it?)

Any thoughts on this? I'm a bit Hmm and assuming the young man who made the comments isn't as clued up on feminism as he claims

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TanyaBranning · 06/08/2011 15:15

I'm not up on all the feminist jargon, but I have to say I think 'sex-positive feminism' is possibly one of the most ridiculous, jargon-tastic labels I have ever heard. What has feminism got to do with liking or not liking sex? Hmm

And disagreeing with porn industry = 'ultra conservative'? Oh please.

This guy is a dimwit.

SardineQueen · 06/08/2011 15:12

He sounds a bit thick TBH, and highly irritating.

DontCallMePeanut · 06/08/2011 12:33

He was definitely using it in an attempt to devalue, SinicalSal. He's a "socialist" (he claims, but regularly spouts more right wing views) so calling someone conservative is an insult in his books. Was wondering if anyone could shed more light on "Conservative Feminism"?

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DontCallMePeanut · 06/08/2011 12:30

My thoughts exactly, from all three of you.

The whole problem with "sex-positive feminism" (and apologies to anyone who identifies as such) is that it gives the impression those feminists who don't identify as such are anti-sex.

I also got asked why I was studying media, if I felt the industry was so damaging to women. Hmm

Oooh, and he started the abortion debate shortly after I started this thread... Apparenty, because I believe women have the right to choose an abortion if they feel that's what they want/need, and they don't need to be told "oh, but you're ending a human life, and the preferred thing is adoption" once they've made that decision... I'm "anti-life"... Suprisingly, he identifies as a pro-choicer. Not suprisingly, he uses a lot of pro-life arguments.

I would delete him, but the claptrap he spouts needs challening... Grin

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SinicalSal · 06/08/2011 12:21

Well, so what, in a sense. 'Conservative' is another devalued word, in some circles, much like feminism is. (Not that I'm a conservative, dear me no!) There's probably loads of sensible, logical ideas under the conservative umbrella -no expert, meself - but there's nothing wrong with taking the best from many perspectives.

StewieGriffinsMom · 06/08/2011 12:17

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jennyvstheworld · 06/08/2011 01:00

Your friend hasn't really thought about it very hard. I would happily take them around an anorexia ward and then we can talk about the 'harmless' glamour model industry.

Reading the article actually makes me feel vaguely sick.

mskatemc · 06/08/2011 00:58

Sounds like someone can't handle anything he can't label, file away in a box and therefore dismiss... There are so many grey areas and sticking points around these subjects and I hate the sex-positive/anti-sex options when most people have ambivalent feelings and responses. You can be positive about sex and still not want women to be trafficked, kids to be dolled up etc...

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