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Is osteoporosis a feminist issue?

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garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 13:13

I came to this after researching nutritional guidance for a friend with advanced osteoporosis. She won't take my advice. She's a beautiful, bird-like vegan with many food intolerances and food dislikes. She has never eaten a fully-balanced diet.

That led me to become interested in women's (often unconscious) attitudes to food. I found many, many women who automatically give the larger protein portion to the men. I found, of course, thousands of women with long-term eating disorders. I also noticed that, amongst the smaller-portion women, there were many who snack later: this may well be due to protein insufficiency but a yoghurt, crisps or chocolate bar won't compensate nutritionally.

I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone's interested.

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garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 14:13

I'm gonna have to put the laptop on a high shelf, then!

And eat lots of beef. Which reminds me ....

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NotJustKangaskhan · 09/07/2011 14:06

No need to worry, just be conscious of it and pull your head and neck back when you feel yourself starting to 'hump' Grin.

TimeWasting · 09/07/2011 13:40

Strength training is particularly good for osteporosis I believe, but women in general are reluctant to do this in the (false) belief that it will lead them to get unfeminine bulky muscles.

It's so self-defeating in a way, because increasing muscle mass raises the metabolism making it easier to burn fat, whereas sitting around starving and consequently binging will not ever work.
But then we aren't really trying to be slim and fit, we are martyring ourselves to femininity.

garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 13:39

Great link, Kanga, thanks. Am very worried now, as I've got the beginnings of the 'hump' Shock

Back to Pilates and yoga for me, then ...

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garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 13:37

You're right, SQ, load-bearing exercise is a major factor in bone health. As you say, that could easily be linked to cultural habits by gender. It's the weight-bearing stuff that makes a difference, not CV exercise which is what women mostly do.

Osteoporosis = common in ageing women, therefore must = hormone-related.
I now doubt this strongly! For one thing, nobody's adequately explained what oestrogen/estradiol has got to do with bone metabolism. And, for another, if bone loss is due to being "less of a woman", wouldn't all men have it??

But perhaps women's health choices wrt diet and exercise explain it all. That would make it a massively feminist issue.

As you've all pointed out, eating disorders are endemic in our culture(s) and that will only make things worse :(

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NotJustKangaskhan · 09/07/2011 13:35

It could be considered a feminist issue. The current advice typically given out is quite horrible in context. It's all diet based blaming (if you ate the right things, you would be healthier!). Nutrition actually only plays a very limited role in osteoporosis, exercise has far more to do with bone regeneration.

Recent article on osteoporosis myths and facts

SardineQueen · 09/07/2011 13:30

Isn't exercise linked to bone mass as well?

Certainly women are culturally not as encouraged to exercise as much as men, there seems to be less for them, and girls seem to drop out of exercise quite young for various reasons.

But if it is true that women have crapper diets and don't exercise, why do they live longer than men with men statistically having the crapper diet? Will this trend be reversed as time passes?

Don't know.

I do agree that inordinate amounts of women (most of them IME Sad) have a terrible attitude to food, are permanently on diets, or breaking diets, talk about food incessently, have an unhealthy interest in what others eat, and do that ridiculous thing of having 1/2 a salad leaf for lunch in a terribly worthy way and then stuffing themselves full of biscuits at about 3. (This has been the case with most of the women in most of the offices I have worked in - it's appalling really).

IroningBoardForSurfBoard · 09/07/2011 13:23

I haven't done any research into dietary guidance as such, but will agree with your link to eating less protein and snacking.

Protein foods are harder to digest and therefore stay in the gut longer, and on the whole, protein-rich foods take more chewing - which is a vital process in digestion and the perception we have of eating to fullfill an appetite.

It was often the women who would forego their food rations during such times, for the sake of men/children.

A chocolate bar after a meal is often seen as a reward, perhaps for 'giving up' vital food.

Albeit subconsciously

Interesting point Smile

TimeWasting · 09/07/2011 13:21

For starters a vegan diet can be balanced, though it is sometimes used by an eating-disordered person to control intake.
Dairy is not necessary for bone health.

Women in general do need less to eat than men in general.

However, malnutrition in women as they go without to feed husband and children is certainly a feminist issue, as is the prevalence of EDs amongst girls and women.

garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 13:21

Well, well! Really? That's interesting :)

Query, though - British women who are 80+ now would have been breast-fed ...

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VivaLeBeaver · 09/07/2011 13:18

Your risk of getting it is also increased if you were bottle fed as a baby. So if you get it and were bottle fed you can blame your mum. Wink

garlicnutter · 09/07/2011 13:14

Info:
I'm very well versed in nutrition; this is the positive outcome of my previous anorexia. I'm not a nutritionist. I do not have osteoporosis.
Osteoporosis is known to be linked to oestrogen deficiency, but the mechanism for this is unclear - men rarely suffer from it.
Osteoporosis is a common result of malnutrition.
Malnutrition is not a calorie problem, it occurs due to imbalanced diet & lack of micronutrients.
Bone health relies on various nutrient conversions within the body; the chemicals required for this are best transported by animal fats and proteins.

Would love to hear others' input :)

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