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Was Bristol Palin raped?

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darleneoconnor · 20/06/2011 11:16

according to this bristol palin was so drunk when she conceived her son that she doesn't remember having sex.

Sounds like rape to me.

Then she was basically 'forced' to marry her rapist? WTF! Sometimes America sounds more like the middle east!

Quite a few forums are discussing this, with some

disgusting rape myths on this forum

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Hullygully · 23/06/2011 11:25

oh you're right, you're right

I shall just have to kill myself

dittany · 23/06/2011 11:22

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Hullygully · 23/06/2011 11:17

You know, you're right, Dittany, I had never realised that about myself.

I do think that. I think that all men from 8-80 should be allowed, nay encouraged, to go out and about raping and impregnating any female of any age as whim takes them.

How could I have been so wrong?

Thank you for helping me see the error of my ways.

dittany · 23/06/2011 11:13

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TheBossofMe · 23/06/2011 11:10

Pretty much every report I;ve read has the AP as source.

"NEW YORK (AP) -- Bristol Palin writes in her new book of losing her virginity to boyfriend Levi Johnston on a camping trip after getting drunk for the first time on too many wine coolers.

She awoke in her tent, alone, with no memories of what had happened as Johnston "talked with his friends on the other side of the canvas." She had vowed to wait until marriage. And she had lied to her parents about where she was going.

Palin, a 20-year-old single mother and the daughter of former Alaska Republican Gov. Sarah Palin, tells a story of "deception and disappointment" in the book, "Not Afraid of Life: My Journey So Far."

The memoir, co-written with Nancy French, is scheduled for publication by William Morrow this week. The Associated Press purchased a copy Friday."

One of many links with same info is here, from an AP member :

www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/20/bristol-palin-lost-virginity-levi-book_n_880242.html

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 11:09

I'm going to have to give up - work to be done.

Ok, so Bristol Palin is a hapless child who was forced to get drunk and be impregnated by rapist Levi.

Happy?

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 11:08

hahahahahahaha

Yep, every Afghani is a stone age dweller. Right on.

And I know why the age of consent was introduced. But we are talking about now, and girls of 15 who consent because they enjoy their sexuality.

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 11:08

Yes, age of consent is very important to protect young girls. Men all know what the age of consent is and really they have no excuse for raping girls under it.

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TheBossofMe · 23/06/2011 11:05

Hully - there's a man walking around today who I know is a rapist. He may never have been prosecuted, he may never have been found guilty in a court of law, but I know he's a rapist. Never being prosecuted doesn't change that.

And I suspect that one day, deep down inside, Bristol will equally know that Levi is a rapist. I don't think she'll ever come out and say that, given he's the father of her child, but I think one day she will know.

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:59

Hully, she says its what happened. Its not just a snippet of an interview on a dubious site, the Associated Press has a pre-release copy of the whole book and they are reporting it as such, with no denial from Palin

where?

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:58

You saying he's a rapist don't make it so.

Do you really not see how unfair to him it is?

TheBossofMe · 23/06/2011 10:58

Hully, she says its what happened. Its not just a snippet of an interview on a dubious site, the Associated Press has a pre-release copy of the whole book and they are reporting it as such, with no denial from Palin

So, if she says its what happened, either she's a liar or he (in UK law anyway) is a rapist. One or the other is true, and I'm from sad experience more inclined to believe that a teenage boy would take advantage of a young girl when drunk than to believe a teenage girl would lie about losing her virginity in such hideous circumstances.

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 10:57

And some are concerned to be cautious and just.

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:57

So prosecute him

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 10:55

On the basis of what she has said, she was raped and he is a rapist.

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 10:54

everyone

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:54

So why is it all right to say in advance of due process that she was raped and thus call him a rapist?

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 10:53

Nobody is suggesting that he be arrested and charged on the basis of the interview. Presumably Bristol doesn't want that anyway. But even if she did, or it was decided to go ahead in the public interest, every would expect proper evidence gathering and witness statements.

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:51

With respect Boss, you don't know any of that. Extrapolation is dangerous in all cases. One should refrain whether it concerns men or women.

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:50

So, based on the snippet of interview, would you be happy for Levi to be arrested and charged?

TheBossofMe · 23/06/2011 10:49

This isn't just about drunken party type sex though, is it? Its about a child, a child, who was so drunk she couldn't remember anything, who had previously said to her boyfriend that she didn't want to have sex before marriage, having her vagina penetrated with a penis whilst drunk, in all likelihood to drunk to give consent. Yes we don't know the full story, but I do know that if my DD had come home and said this had happened, I'd be calling the police. And if my DS came home and said he'd done the same thing, then god help me, I'd probably be calling the police too.

Hullygully · 23/06/2011 10:49

And some are concerned to be cautious and just.

karmakameleon · 23/06/2011 10:47

I think the main problem with the thread is that there are different agendas going on.