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Was Bristol Palin raped?

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darleneoconnor · 20/06/2011 11:16

according to this bristol palin was so drunk when she conceived her son that she doesn't remember having sex.

Sounds like rape to me.

Then she was basically 'forced' to marry her rapist? WTF! Sometimes America sounds more like the middle east!

Quite a few forums are discussing this, with some

disgusting rape myths on this forum

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MrsReasonable · 25/06/2011 01:00

dittany:"I haven't belittled your feelings anywhere HRH"
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HRH: "this is my final thought... Each one of them is a beAutiful, young individual. They are not Potential rapists or potential victims, they are indIviduals."
dittany: "Sanctimonious cant. Meaningless"
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Short memory, ditz?

HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 00:58

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somethingwitty82 · 25/06/2011 00:49

If he was too drunk to remember, who raped whom?

You can't know in advance whether someone will remember the night, they may have only had one wine at the time then got smashed afterwards and subsequently forgotten.

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AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:53

Here it is where I get all my sex ed from as a 30 something

AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:50

I saw a table the other day that had all the things a woman might do, and what they meant. Like turn away = no, says 'hm maybe not' = no, says 'I'm not sure' = no. And then all the turns toward = yes, says 'would love to' = yes etc. Can't recall where that was, but I bet it was linked here.

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AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:42

Macaroona - I found an answer to your question on why there was not a drink sex limit. Some judges had the same thought

sunshineandbooks · 24/06/2011 22:37

Thanks Dittany and Alice. That's what I've always felt as well - If she doesn't want it then it's wrong for him to take it even if she seems passive - though I've been very reluctant to call that rape in the past. I guess I have subscribed to this idea that it's only rape if she's fighting back and screaming no. Sad

AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:35

Or we are taught not to call it rape by our rapists.

I agree the woman does not have to name it for it to be so.

AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:33

Drunken sex is legal if it is consensual. It can only be consensual if the woman has capacity to consent. The ability to consent can be impaired by numerous things, including drink.

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Macaroona · 24/06/2011 22:30

So why isn't there a drinking limit on sex, like there is for driving?

I'll answer - because the amount of alcohol involved is irrelevant to whether a man is a rapist or not.

Drunken sex is perfectly legal.

The law is pretty clear - don't rape. All men know what it means, there are no grey areas.

AliceWhirled · 24/06/2011 22:29

that was xpost sunshine, was referring to your previous post.

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