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Was Bristol Palin raped?

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darleneoconnor · 20/06/2011 11:16

according to this bristol palin was so drunk when she conceived her son that she doesn't remember having sex.

Sounds like rape to me.

Then she was basically 'forced' to marry her rapist? WTF! Sometimes America sounds more like the middle east!

Quite a few forums are discussing this, with some

disgusting rape myths on this forum

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Hullygully · 25/06/2011 10:21

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Macaroona · 25/06/2011 10:20

SGM - interesting. I enjoy sex when far too drunk to drive or hold much of a coherent conversation. I'm in a stable relationship, however, wherein we trust each other and know our boundaries. I might even try new things with the alcohol-induced confidence, but it's all good.

Bristol however was in a (I assume) fairly new relationship in which she had not had sex before, therefore for either of them to make the decision to have sex for the first time when very drunk was a bad one.

I think the underage drinking is a big issue here - a 15 year old might well be ready to have sex, but a 15 year old under the influence of alcohol is a different matter.

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AliceWhirled · 25/06/2011 10:16

Macaroona - you said "A quote from the Guardian article Alice linked (thanks Alice, interesting article, just cut out the insults and we can have a decent discussion) this:"

I beg your fucking pardon. Where are my insults? Wonderful.

And the selectivity of your copying and pasting from that article is interesting.

dittany · 25/06/2011 10:15

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Hullygully · 25/06/2011 10:13

dittany - I give up. I have been puzzling for some time to think who you remind me of and it's daftpunk. The insistence on being right, the sense of persecution and being a lone voice, the irrational hurling of insults, the refusal to actually answer questions, the endless repetition of the same point as if that's enough to make it so.

People like you and her can't be engaged with, you don't want it, so okay, I won't. But do bear in mind that it's a huge shame that you are driving people away.

And no, it doesn't mean that I'll be staying away from your personal fiefdom of the fem sec, just that I give up all hope of intelligent, engaged discourse with yourself.

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Macaroona · 25/06/2011 10:13

Yes Dittany, and SGM has made some really interesting points addressing why Bristol might have lied, and the pressure she was under.

When will you address other posters' interesting points rather than preaching?

You don't have to agree with everyone, but stop telling people they are anti-feminist, MRA, supporting the patriarchy by trying to have a discussion around points of alcohol, consent, teenagers and societal pressure?

dittany · 25/06/2011 10:10

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MrsReasonable · 25/06/2011 10:09

There she goes again, lashing out when she feels the argument might not be going her way. So now if yu even talk about how women lie, you are supporting a women-hating rape culture. Brilliant.

sunshineandbooks · 25/06/2011 10:09

I don't think Bristol Palin is relevant really - it's a principle we're talking about.

dittany · 25/06/2011 10:08

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Riveninside · 25/06/2011 10:07

Im on the phone since my computer killed itself months back. Very fustrating.

I do think personal attacks are unwarranted. Theres topics id love to discuss on the feminist section as a muslim feminist but i am too scared of personal attacks and 'my way is the only way feminism'
Its sad and its oppressive.

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Macaroona · 25/06/2011 10:07

Sunshine - Bristol hasn't said she was raped, so by discussing whether or not she was, we're not accusing her of lying. Straw man argument from Dittany et al. Rape is bad, yes. Was Bristol raped? We don't know.