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Was Bristol Palin raped?

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darleneoconnor · 20/06/2011 11:16

according to this bristol palin was so drunk when she conceived her son that she doesn't remember having sex.

Sounds like rape to me.

Then she was basically 'forced' to marry her rapist? WTF! Sometimes America sounds more like the middle east!

Quite a few forums are discussing this, with some

disgusting rape myths on this forum

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buzzsore · 25/06/2011 15:16

Just trying to form an opinion of a group you support, as you suggested. Hmm

HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 15:14

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DontCallMePeanut · 25/06/2011 15:07

You may have tales of that, HRH, but what of women FORCED to give their abusive ex's contact. Contact which begins supervised, then supervision levels drop. Then, before you know it, a child and his mother have been murdered...

That's where PAS is used. Against mothers who are trying to protect their children...

HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 15:03

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DontCallMePeanut · 25/06/2011 15:02

Yup, us women lie! God forbid anyone should believe us if we say we're raped or abused... The courts wouldn't... But, y'know, here we are on the feminist section of mumsnet, where we should be safe, and the lovely FNF are being promoted...

That PDF Ditz linked to accuses women's aid of calling petty things abuse, and thus there's a LOT of false allegations of abuse Hmm Of course... Us women are all liars... And we've just been called so by a member of the feminist section of mumsnet. Nice.

Have a Biscuit, HRH, for even considering support for FNF. In fact, have the whole packet.

buzzsore · 25/06/2011 14:57

The agenda does seem to be 'women lie'.

buzzsore · 25/06/2011 14:56

Ah yes, but what about the failings of the good doctor Hmm? FNF have this available citing him as further reading.

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HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 14:37

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HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 14:36

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karmakameleon · 25/06/2011 14:32

As your DSD is very clearly in a tiny minority she is not really relavent on this thread is she?

Much more important is the extreme pressure young women have to protect their rapists are we live in a culture where you are immediately doubted if you tell the truth.

HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 14:30

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HRHMJOFMAGICJAMALAND · 25/06/2011 14:27

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karmakameleon · 25/06/2011 14:23

The main cause of extreme pressure to lie that teenage girls experience is not from abusive mothers. It is from a society that jumps to crucify young women who even hint at circumstances in which they may have been forced to have non consensual sex. This thread demonstrates that nicely.

And that is why it is important that feminists support vulnerable young women who find themselves in these appalling situations. But we can't effectively support them if we don't even believe them.

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DontCallMePeanut · 25/06/2011 14:21

From FNF themselves...

"Our immediate priorities are getting courts orders for shared residence, improvements in the time children are allowed to spend with their 'second parent', more effective action taken when one parent defies a court order requiring them to allow their children a relationship with the other parent, and replacing adversarial court hearings over children-matters with child-centred discussion. "

Their priority is making sure the courts improve shared residence. It doesn't say their priorities are safeguarding children...

Findnofun · 25/06/2011 14:21

Mumsnet isn't just for mums.

Fnf isn't just for fathers.

DontCallMePeanut · 25/06/2011 14:18

You accused her of lying about rape Hmm (DSD, that is) On a thread abou a girl who has said something that has been perceived as synonymous with rape.

And please, the name says it all... families need fathers. I'd rather not talk to them, out of fear they'd tell me I was letting DS suffer by not having his father in his life. I've had enough of that the past 2 years. Surely you can't tell me the name means something COMPLETELY different...

Findnofun · 25/06/2011 14:15

Is there any evidence that FNF is anti-women?

Are you getting confused with Fathers for justice?