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The moment you knew mumsnet feminism section was starting to influence how you think?

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QueenOfAllBiscuitsandMuffins · 16/06/2011 18:12

I have just seen the new Maire Claire cover of Jennifer Aniston and Jason Bates, my VERY FIRST thought was ffs why is she half naked and he fully dressed. a year ago it would have been wow she looks fantastic (which to be fair she does thanks to the airbrush, hardword and good genes.)
I've only just (last 6 months) started to read the feminist section, I rarely post as my thoughts on the subject are mostly semi formed and rarely coherent.

Anyway, I'm sure there are a lot of people like me out there who don't really post but do read and learn, this is a very fluffy thread for this section but when did you realise the feminist section was having an influence of how you perceived things?

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franke · 16/06/2011 22:27

Yes, I've gone from reluctant tolerance to zero tolerance of porn.

I've bought a few books which have been recommended here.

The discussions on this topic have actually made me feel better about my current role as a sahm.

PippiLongBottom · 16/06/2011 22:25

When I started to agree with Dittany Grin.
When Iwasn't embarrassed to say 'I am a feminist'
When I booked the UK Feminista summer school.
When DD (9) noticed that an employment advisory panel on a tv programme were all men. (I have been filling her head with anti patriarchy thoughts)

HerBeX · 16/06/2011 22:19

LOL at "And I think my ranting has actually had an effect on my colleagues too."

My immediate thought was "they've all resigned".

cleverything · 16/06/2011 22:15

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baskingseals · 16/06/2011 22:09

when i stood up for myself with dh, and didn't feel wobbly about it. i knew in my bones i was right.

i realised absolutely definitely that i am not responsible for anyone else's happiness, though i feel i am responsible for creating an environmet in which my dc can be happy. i am certainly not responsible for dh's, which i sort of thought i was.

when i wished that i had learnt about feminisim bloody years ago. feel would have made very different choices if i had, or actually made some choices instead of just falling into situations without thinking about them.

TheCrackFox · 16/06/2011 21:55

Your DH sounds very similar to mine Sybil. I try to avoid the TV but he turns over as soon as the ads come on as a way of preventing me screaming obscenities as it. Grin

He has, though, started to agree with a lot of my rants. Not sure if he is doing this for a quiet life or because my preaching is working.

SybilBeddows · 16/06/2011 21:44

when dh asked me very politely if I could try to hold off my first rant of the day until after he'd had a cup of coffee

Pumpster · 16/06/2011 21:42

When I had a full blown row with people at work about a rape that happened at 3am in a carpark... To the 'what was she doing out at 3am' comments.

IsItMeOr · 16/06/2011 21:35

When DH joked that he didn't think that I needed to read the feminist threads any more after we discussed the politics of housework.

SugarPasteFrog · 16/06/2011 21:13

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AnyFucker · 16/06/2011 21:07

teddy, you sound far from uneducated to me

TeddyMcardle · 16/06/2011 20:58

Lots of things, though I mostly lurk and rarely post as I feel so uneducated on this board Blush

Porn, I used to watch it with my exh, I used to watch it for him really, I can't even explain my reasons for this now as I never enjoyed it. I just didn't want him to think I was 'frigid' or uncool about it, an it's everywhere so it must be alright and if I don't like it the problem is me not porn.. Wrong.
Bringing up ds and trying to hold back the tide of gender stereotyping, so he gets a bit of everything and not just 'boys toys'.
Little things like reading 'That's Not My Baby' and all the babies are girls as boys couldn't possibly be interested in babies Hmm
Looking at facebook now and seeing girl after girl posting 100s of pictures of themselves with as much breast on show as possible for boys to 'like', it makes me so sad to see women my age putting themselves up there like that, 'liking' comments about how 'fuckable' they look.
I always hated how women and strippers in particular were portrayed in Friends and have at last found people who agree!

TotallyUtterlyDesperate · 16/06/2011 20:52

Tallwivglasses We must be a similar age! Read that in 1977 too, then Betty Freidan and others.

poorbuthappy · 16/06/2011 20:47

by the way has anyone emailed marie claire to ask?

poorbuthappy · 16/06/2011 20:47

my daughter asking me why bouncie didn't have many clothes on in a music video brought me running into this section. I may only lurk, and also sometimes don't always agree with everyone, but I am getting there slowly. (Did the italics work?)

MillyR · 16/06/2011 20:42

TOB, changing the genders around is such a good idea. I am going to start doing that with adult books.

MrsJamin · 16/06/2011 20:39

When I read Dear Zoo and thought "why are all the animals male?" and got really annoyed about it!

tallwivglasses · 16/06/2011 20:39

TUD - I agree. I first read The Female Eunuch back in 1977

It's great to see so many women here who are proud to call themselves feminists.

Meglet · 16/06/2011 20:35

When the DC's play hospitals I correct them if they play doctors and nurses. I tell them to play doctors (4yo DS) and consultants (2yo DD) Grin.

(not that theres anything wrong with being a nurse, I just want her to aim high).

quietlysuggests · 16/06/2011 20:31

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TotallyUtterlyDesperate · 16/06/2011 20:21

When this section made me smile to realise that there are still feminists around! I was beginning to believe that feminism had died some time back in the 1970s! I find myself regularly saying to DH about various incidents that it feels like we have lost ground in so many ways. I work in schools and am regularly horrified by teenage girls believing that a feminist outlook is unnecessary because "women are ahead of men now" or words to that effect!

AnyFucker · 16/06/2011 20:05

what a great thread

never mind "fluffy" this is what we need

my lightbulb moment ?

the many various porn threads, I cannot highlight one

I used to think it was a bit rubbish but "each to their own"

not any more

ScarlettIsWalking · 16/06/2011 20:04

When I was starting to talk about The Patriarchy at coffee mornings. I don't think the other Mums knew what hit them Blush

MissDemeanor · 16/06/2011 20:01

I feel that I'm absorbing it all by osmosis without being totally convinced by the over analysis and argument. Hmm I don't actually "feel" it's relevance to me personally but bloody hell I can argue with a lot of people about it now. And always from the feminist perspective.

Bumperlicioso · 16/06/2011 19:55

When dh and I had a debate about feminism, he argued that it wasn't relevant to me as I don't experience sexism (middle class, white, public sector job etc.) and I could eloquently defend myself so I did a bit of research and made him a power point presentation about why feminism is important to me and his daughters and made him view it.

Also yesterday I tried on some 'false lash' mascara (awful btw) and then thought 'why would I want to look like I am wearing false lashes Confused?'

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