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Take responsiblity for how you act and what you wear

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PurpleStrawberry · 15/06/2011 12:23

Nick Freeman (AKA Mr Loophole), lawyer to the stars, had this to say in his column for the Manchester Evening News yesterday. A friend who lives in Manchester has e-mailed me the article.

Because yes, of course, if a woman is dressed in a certain way, she is only out to attract/lure men.

menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/comment/blogs/s/1423562_nick-freeman-take-responsibility-for-how-you-act-and-what-you-wear

Arsehole.

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swallowedAfly · 16/06/2011 23:59

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StayFrosty · 16/06/2011 21:38

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TeiTetua · 16/06/2011 21:29

Not quite necessarily, m'lud. His line of defence could have been that the victim was telling a perfectly true story, except that his client was misidentified.

StayFrosty · 16/06/2011 21:08

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HerBeX · 16/06/2011 20:50

OMG
Missed that bit
The Rapist's Friend eh

SardineQueen · 16/06/2011 20:47

I concur with stayfrosty's reading of that, and deliver a verdict of Hmm Shock Angry

StayFrosty · 16/06/2011 20:23

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HerBeX · 16/06/2011 20:19

Maybe he was the prosecution lawyer?

Or do you have to be one or the other?

StayFrosty · 16/06/2011 20:17

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HerBeX · 16/06/2011 18:24

I constantly victimise men.

I'm always wearing low cut tops and dresses. I force them to gaze at my cleavage.

Big fascist bully girl man victimiser, that's what I am.

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 15/06/2011 20:02

The marvellous thing is, you don't actually have to use words or listen to what they think about it. You can just do what you want to them.

DontCallMePeanut · 15/06/2011 18:41

Of course they do, Joaninha... All yours for the taking. Wink

joaninha · 15/06/2011 18:33

Cos those emo guys are actually showing their underwear- does that mean they want me?!!

DontCallMePeanut · 15/06/2011 18:17

For me, it's any emo looking guy.... they shouldn't wear their jeans so low slung. They're just tempting me.

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PurpleStrawberry · 15/06/2011 18:05

I have to restrain myself every time I see a man in a really nice suit, so I'm afraid men won't be able to wear suits to work any more, so I don't have to fight the urge any more! Wink

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joaninha · 15/06/2011 18:00

"I don't personally know any men who would be angry if a woman stopped just prior to penetration but I don know that most men might be a bit pissed off and frustrated.
Just as most women would because it's not a decent thing to do REGARDLESS of whether you have a dick or a fanjo."

SmashingHairDay - yes I'd probably be a bit pissed off too, especially if I'd shaved my legs for the occasion!

But what I wouldn't do is spout a load of nonsense telling all men that wearing tight jeans was irresponsibly sending out sexual messages and making myself out to be Wonderwoman for controlling my carnal urges.

SardineQueen · 15/06/2011 17:54

So if none of the men you know are like that, smashing, why are you going out of your way to defend this bloke?

If none of the men you know are like that, what makes you think this blokes ideas are really valid and need defending?

When most men I know, and from the sounds of it most men you know, would also concur that this bloke is spouting some atrocious and quite scary crap.

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smashinghairday · 15/06/2011 17:47

I don't personally know any men who leer.
I don't personally know any horrible men.
I don't personally know any men who would be angry if a woman stopped just prior to penetration but I don know that most men might be a bit pissed off and frustrated.
Just as most women would because it's not a decent thing to do REGARDLESS of whether you have a dick or a fanjo.

joaninha · 15/06/2011 17:46

Aw, you gotta feel sorry for Mr Loophole though. After thousands of years of entitlement for men and he gets to be part of the first generation that has to put up with this consent nonsense. I'd be a bit miffed too .... poor luv.

nailak · 15/06/2011 17:45

imo there are two issues which are confused,

if you are dressed provocatively, you are likely to et unwanted attention, lewd comments, cars beepin etc, this can be annoyin and demeanin

however rape is not about what you wear, most rape occurs in private places and people know their attacker.

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PurpleStrawberry · 15/06/2011 17:43

I should add, it wasn't only in this lecture the student would leer at me, it was socially as well.

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PurpleStrawberry · 15/06/2011 17:42

When I was at university, I had a lecture where another student used to leer at me, and sometimes during lectures I could feel him looking at me. It was so creepy. The result of it was, I got so uncomfortable about it, that it started to impact on my concentration, for example I would 'switch off' from what the professor was saying and miss making important notes.

In the end, I spoke to my professor about it, and it transpired I wasn't the only student who had made complaints about this man. In fact, he had faced a student hearing on a prior occasion, and he ended up getting 'sent down' (Cambridge term for being expelled) after my complaint.

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SardineQueen · 15/06/2011 17:37

I think from his job you can tell he's a not very nice person. So not that shocking I guess, that he thinks like that. It's sad though that we're not even at the stage where people with these sorts of views feel that they can't air them.

And Blush @ peanut Smile

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