If I used breast imagery in a pictorial political satire i.e. David Cameron’s face looks like a tit, is it unacceptable and like the use of breast imagery in a lads mag?

Poppy project rocks.. Fantastic stuff. There used to run a van with tea and condoms down our end, I really should get off my lazy arss one day and see what I can do for em. Readdress the balance of my badness shall we say..Well off to make tea.

Thank you for your input, I have quite allot of food for thought.
Much respect to you all.

I recommend you start a thread to see how many women on MN would knowingly have a sex worker round there house.

You want to get women (and men) off the game; you make it easer for them to rejoin mainstream society.

As women we tried to look out for each other under the shit circumstance.

In my life time I have personally supported two people to come out of sex work. I let them come to my house, stay and get back on there feet. Encourage them to look forward in there life and did not judge them for what they had done.

At collage I watched as one person I knew descended into making pornography to subsidise there degree, I spent a great deal of time and effort trying o dissuade that person. We were both skint and they tried to get me into it as well. I chose to clime the wall and eat from the out of date food skip behind a super market and squat.

That person made it very clear that it was there choice and I was being judgemental and interfering in there life. It made me very sad, there was nothing I could do. I have also met women who had no financial reasons or coercion from male partys. They actually got off on doing it, they we exhibitionist. It was the form there sexuality took.

Amsterdam council recognized the bad brothels then. That leaves two thirds left open. While I was there I talked to some of the Dutch sex workers and how the stigma of being a prostitute in Holland is allot less, seems to make it allot easer to leave it as a profession. One Dutch sex worker I talked to was leaving to get married, they were a normal middle class family didn?t seem to mind.
I also talked to a woman who was a specially trained sex worker for the disabled.

I lived in a red-light district here in the UK, and I was propositioned by punters even with a pram and shopping, scumbags. However I felt safer as more then one occasion coming home at night I was harassed or a bad marital argument with an ex, the girls came straight over to check if I was ok.
.I remember when one prostitute was being raped behind my house at 3am.My self and other women in the street were shouting out the windows and banging things like pots. He scarpered. She didn?t want the police called, because what she was doing was illegal.

There are a lot of feminist who condemn prostitution but wouldn?t have a sex worker round there house for a cup of tea.

1. Social change so people start facing up to woman hating instead of ignoring it.

What form will that take?

2. See above re making paying for sex illegal.

Agreed to hitting the punters for a change. However prostitution will go on, it will be pushed out into the very dangerous fringes of society. The girls can be put in more danger; strict regulation like Amsterdam seems safer.You cant stop it.

3. Make the harms of pornography into a specific legal harm so people who have been hurt by it can sue pornographers and distributors.

No arguments about that, good idea.

Last bit, I know women who are into BDSM. As long as it consensual that?s there business.

So how are you going to stop it?What form will that take?

How would you punish the women and men who use it?.

Do you want it banned?

You keep asking me about my stance on pornography?

"One Day They Were Simply Gone"
The Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals Germany 1934 from rictornorton.co.uk/nazi.htm

February 22: Prostitution was banned.

February 23: All gay bars and hotels were closed.

March 3: Nudism was banned.

March 7: Pornography was banned.

March: The West German Morality League began its Campaign against Homosexuals, Jews, Negroes and Mongols.

November 13: the Hamburg City Administration asked the Head of Police to "pay special attention to transvestites and to deliver them to the concentration camps if necessary."

So Dittany..um..so you agree with some of what the nazi party did above was right?

nice little quote..

"Erotica and pornography should not be confused with obscene satires or lampoons because the latter do not aim at sexual titillation.."

www.bookrags.com/tandf/erotica-and-pornography-tf/

You might take note dittany that i have not personaly attacked you, and see this as important debate.Shall we keep it that way please.

So the lesbians who showed me Anny sprinkles work, who enjoy it in the privacy of there own home, you would go actually stop them from doing it.
And how will you be doing this dittany? Send the police round to breake there door down and have them arrested? So um..what kind of punishment would you give to these women for watching women for women porn?

There are exceptions you see, it?s not that simple.