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The Burning Times: fascinating docu on women's power before Christianity

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sakura · 28/05/2011 01:15

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ANd why women are feared to the extent that they are accused of witchcraft and killed for it

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swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 19:30

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HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:30

In the church, I think it is important to have women bishops - as we have a woman as head of the church it seems odd that some find this so difficult to accept!

However I am not religious - despite being subject to plenty of it in my youth. I see it as a cultural artefact.

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 19:30

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Tyr · 30/05/2011 19:28

goodkate Mon 30-May-11 19:22:25

I must admit I've only read the 1st and last pages of this thread as it is very long, but I have to agree with dittany.

When I was much younger I once had a Boss who moaned about the way the Irish Catholics were treated by the Protestant Brits, which I know they were but I turned round and said that's nothing compared to the 2000 years of religious shit that us women have had to put up with - I didn't last long BUT boy it felt good!

Yes, the Irish were all Catholic and the "brits" all protestant.
Having grown up there, I've been enlightened.
Clearly, you were over qualified for the job and he just had to let you go......

dittany · 30/05/2011 19:28

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goodkate · 30/05/2011 19:28

Tyr I don't quite go with that. I would say that religion was already indoctrinated into the vast majority of the population, so by saying they were secular at that time doesn't have the same connotations as it does now.

Goblinchild · 30/05/2011 19:27

'Why is it still happening?'

Why is what still happening?

MitchiestInge · 30/05/2011 19:26

Why is it still happening?

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 19:24

FWIW, I was at a conference on Saturday and met a guy who informed me that women academics tend to write weaker papers because they get distracted trying to make everything fit with feminism. I was actually quite angry and upset, but maybe he's come across idiots like this. It is fucking depressing, and to be honest dittany you may think you're doing great things by being angry about oppression of women but when you act like this you might as well donate your spare cash to Misogynists R Us and go campaign for the Tory Party.

StewieGriffinsMom · 30/05/2011 19:24

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Tyr · 30/05/2011 19:23

Albert Einstein once said, "If the facts don't fit my theory, then the facts are wrong" There seems to be a lot of that about.
Once again, secular courts were responsible for the majority of these killings so by that token, women should never set foot in a courthouse or other government office either.

goodkate · 30/05/2011 19:22

I must admit I've only read the 1st and last pages of this thread as it is very long, but I have to agree with dittany.

When I was much younger I once had a Boss who moaned about the way the Irish Catholics were treated by the Protestant Brits, which I know they were but I turned round and said that's nothing compared to the 2000 years of religious shit that us women have had to put up with - I didn't last long BUT boy it felt good!

dittany · 30/05/2011 19:21

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HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:20

Shall we all dress up as 'beautiful women the givers of life and health' this halloween? Or rather, on 'all hallows eve, the rememberance of the elders'?

Reality · 30/05/2011 19:20

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HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:16

Dittany I agree.

Its interesting that the jews and the holocaust are remembered as a source of shame.
But we still have a very negative portrayal of women as witches at halloween.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 19:16

dittany, Milly and SGM (who actually, er, seem to know about this) have already told you what was wrong about that, too. Have you forgotten or are you still clinging to the 'it's ok to lie for feminism' theory?

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 19:14

Eh? HH what are you on about? Am I missing something?

dittany · 30/05/2011 19:14

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HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:14

HHAHAHAHHA LDR do you know how babies are made?

dittany · 30/05/2011 19:13

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HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:13

Not just christianity of course - men.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 19:13

HH - where's the evidence for that? I've never heard women knew how to 'control reproduction' in ancient history except in the context of Lysistrata - and I doubt you want to argue Ancient Greek was wonderfully feminist.

HHLimbo · 30/05/2011 19:12

Those powers women had were exactly the things christianity wanted to claim and control.