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The Burning Times: fascinating docu on women's power before Christianity

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sakura · 28/05/2011 01:15

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ANd why women are feared to the extent that they are accused of witchcraft and killed for it

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dittany · 30/05/2011 20:32

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goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:32

And I can't spell privileged...

goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:31

Ha ha

Wish I had a privilaged background - working class girl from Hull me matey!

Terraced house, bog standard comp. But I've worked bloody hard, full time, 3 kids and but yes now I'm comfortable.

Tory, feminist, republic promoting all round idiot really. I like wine, cooking and red is my favourite colour and today I am wearing...........

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 20:24

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goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:20

Right I'm off to eat the buns my DD & DH-to-be made today with a cuppa.

You see men can stay at home and "Bake buns and suck my " too!

Bye

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 20:20

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inanna12 · 30/05/2011 20:19

whoops! sorry! certainly wouldn't have recommended a book by starhawk to provide a different perspective on a film by, um, starhawk.
must read threads in full, must read threads in full....

dittany · 30/05/2011 20:17

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sparky246 · 30/05/2011 20:16

lesbians used to be accussed of being witches and murdered!
and i have no idea if this is true or not but apparently witches were put in the water-if they drowned they was a witch and if they didnt-they wasnt.
[or the other way round-i cant remember]
if a woman had a third nipple she was also accused of being a witch.
i hope you feel better soon SAF!

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 20:15

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 20:15

Philanderer! Definitely!

I do find him creepy in the film version, too.

But yes, I think men being threatened by women is a theme through history, isn't it?

goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:13

My question is "Was John Proctor an early feminist?" Or was he just a philander realising the error of his ways?

goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:10

LRD - Never OMG What a shit! Aren't they supposed to be educated

God they must feel very threatened

swallowedAfly · 30/05/2011 20:09

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goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:08

Thanks you bunch of feminists you!

Dittany - you're right I must admit that I was shaking afterwards.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 20:06

Btw, the fact they didn't speak to you ... kinda suggests it hit home, doesn't it?

Speaking of the royalty and sexist education, my mum was really pissed off that Prince Charles got a free place at Oxbridge when he obviously wasn't bright enough, and she once got to meet the then-principal of his college (I forget which one it is), and asked him how he justified it. He replied that women's colleges were a bigger example of special pleading, weren't they? Shock Angry

Tyr · 30/05/2011 20:05

goodkate Mon 30-May-11 19:28:12

Tyr I don't quite go with that. I would say that religion was already indoctrinated into the vast majority of the population, so by saying they were secular at that time doesn't have the same connotations as it does now.

Goodkate,

On that I would say that you have made a fair point. However, the church did to an extent distance itself from the malleus and the hysteria so there was something of a conflict between the church (usually held to be the culprit) and the secular courts (such as they were)
I would be the last one to defend the christian church but the degree of obfuscation and myth attached to their involvement in this (and they were far from blameless) lends itself to the kind of comic book version of history being peddled here from some quarters.

dittany · 30/05/2011 20:04

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StewieGriffinsMom · 30/05/2011 20:04

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 20:03

Grin Nicely done!

goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:01

Needless to say neither of them spoke to me again that night - Pathetic!

goodkate · 30/05/2011 20:00

Ha ha OK then.

A few years ago I had the pleasure - and it was very nice - of being invited to a charity do at Windsor Castle and sat at the same table as Prince Edward. In between us was a lovely guy who was also a strict catholic. They were talking some nonsense about education and how it was now geared towards teaching girls rather than boys and that it should be reversed because the poor old boys were suffering.

Although I understood what they were saying I was also quite incensed - so I piped up and said that women had had to put up with centuries of male based teaching, most of it driven by the church and it was about time women had an advantage.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 30/05/2011 19:53

No, boast! Grin

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