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The Burning Times: fascinating docu on women's power before Christianity

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sakura · 28/05/2011 01:15

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ANd why women are feared to the extent that they are accused of witchcraft and killed for it

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:49

Alice, shall we go together? I'm bleeding too, but induced by a nice man-made blend of chemicals, so perhaps it doesn't count?

LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:48

Tyr, you know what? Fuck off, fuck off when you get there, and then fuck off some more.

Is that the level of debate that suits you best, or should I try to lower my tone a little?

As for saying it must 'sting a bit' to know about women being sold and abused - you arrogant bastard. I hope you don't have a mother, wife or a daughter. How would you feel if it were them? Would it still 'sting a bit'?

AliceWorld · 31/05/2011 22:47

What is this weirdness?! Yet another thing I had no idea there was weirdness around. Who are they and where can I go to shake their hands, as I'm bleeding at the moment so would like to use if for good Angry

LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:46

What are sweatlodges? Confused

Pub sounds the better bet, whatever - you were students! Grin

Tyr · 31/05/2011 22:46

LRD,

If you hadn't insulted me, I'd almost sympathise. Your friends reduced to mere "livestock." And willingly too.
That has to sting a bit.

swallowedAfly · 31/05/2011 22:44

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:41

Tyr, what exactly was the reason you took the piss out of the post Dittany made, which you now accept was correct, then?

LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:40

Is that Orthodox Judaism Brian? Or just, erm, him being a weirdo?

I did genuinely know a man who admitted he felt 'squeamish' about knowing a woman was on her period. That man is my dad. Hmm

SAF - yes, I think you're right it's a backlash to seeing that, shock, there are single mums and lesbian mums and all sorts, and the world hasn't ended like we were promised, so the solution is to punish them anyway.

Btw, while we are having our emotional womanly rants, can I share that I am really depressed that no fewer than three of my mates got married over the weekend and all have changed their names. Bringing the grand total of my married friends who've kept their names to ... two. And they're married to each other.

Grrr!

Tyr · 31/05/2011 22:38

LRD,

"So basically, Tyr, you quoted her points about husbandry and women as livestock, took the piss, but on reflection admit she's correct and you look like a prat? Good good."

Why don't you read what I actually said.

AliceWorld · 31/05/2011 22:37

'twas me. I did. Blush

BrianAndHisBalls · 31/05/2011 22:36

Did someone just ask a poster if it was their time of the month??? On a feminist forum?? Shock

BrianAndHisBalls · 31/05/2011 22:34

Saf - you saying about 'banishing' reminded me that there's a bloke at work that won't shake hands with any women (its traditional to/expected in my line of work when you first meet someone) in case they're on their period Confused

This really pisses me off.

swallowedAfly · 31/05/2011 22:34

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:30

I don't know enough about America to say on that issue, SAF, but it really feels like it, doesn't it?

swallowedAfly · 31/05/2011 22:28

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:23

Grin at SAF and Alice. Bless, you wee womens are so cute when you're angry eh?

Tyr - you said India was 'the ends of the earth', which it's not (mainly because that's a meaningless phrase). Abuse of women doesn't just happen in faraway countries. As SGM has just shown.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 31/05/2011 22:21

So basically, Tyr, you quoted her points about husbandry and women as livestock, took the piss, but on reflection admit she's correct and you look like a prat? Good good.

Brian - you just made me think of the current US situation about women being investigated when they miscarry in case they 'procured abortion'. Angry Sad

Tyr · 31/05/2011 22:21

LRD,

What did I say about India that was rubbish?

AliceWorld · 31/05/2011 22:21

is it your time of the month of something SAF?

swallowedAfly · 31/05/2011 22:20

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BrianAndHisBalls · 31/05/2011 22:19

Discussion has probably moved on and I haven't caught up yet but I thought this was quite interesting:

"Information regarding contraception available to women in the Tudor period was passed around by word-of-mouth as part of unwritten women's culture. As a result, it aroused deep suspicion among men, who always regarded women's activities as mysterious and potentially threatening. Any interference with the natural processes was considered witchcraft, and women (or men) promoting contraception or even offering advice to other women on contraceptive methods might be charged with witchcraft and executed. Many of the women executed as witches at the end of the Tudor period and early in the Stuart period were accused either of promoting contraception or causing abortions".

This case in 1895 was also interesting, there is a very good book on it available:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridget_Cleary

AliceWorld · 31/05/2011 22:18

jezz SAF will you leave off the shrillness!