Why women will always fall short of 'beauty'

Why do advertisers pay for these images to be made, if they don't affect people? If they didn't, people wouldn't buy the products that they are selling. Women wouldn't buy makeup. It clearly does affect us.

So African tribes women etc all read Vogue and Elle and watch TV and that makes them put stuff on their face? Oh I see.

Where's the line then? No make up at all, mascara and eye liner only? Maybe a slick of lipstick?

Does it every occur to you that some people like make up and hair products? And are not trying to attain to someone else's idea of beauty but their onw?

Read Beauty Myth thanks and seen her speak at LSE. But your OP 'FFS' post explained nothing. You are not giving credit to the majority of the population who you seem to view and thick robots who succumb to big corporations ideas of beauty and wallow in selft pity if are not attained too. Is simply not the case.

So you do not wear make up, don't brush your hair or use soap I presume? Because this would be wrong?

I would also recommend reading The Beauty Myth. I'm not particularly good at putting it into writing, but it has blown my fucking mind tbh.

Makeup works.

Why do advertisers pay for these images to be made, if they don't affect people? If they didn't, people wouldn't buy the products that they are selling. Women wouldn't buy makeup. It clearly does affect us.

I don't think she looks particularly beautiful in that.

It's a valuable thing to show people, definitely, to see how much manipulation goes on.

Here are the Britney pics, although of course even without the photoshopping she already has a lot of makeup and good lighting/camera position.

sprogger - it's only easy if you know the answer! :o

I see women more beautiful than that every day, genuinely. They are not flawless or plastic but still beautiful.

I credit young women with the intelligence to see this.
It's no different from men with chiselled jaws and hairless six packs.

Gosh, 'knowing' on an intellectual level that things may not really exist the way they appear is a million miles away from the reality of being faced with images of unattainable perfection every day. Sure I see 'normal' friends, family and colleagues but the people society aspires to, puts on tv screens and in magazines are what is held up as an ideal beauty standard and I don't actually think it is possible not to be affected by that. And it ain't in a good, healthy, positive way either.

hey Carocaro, this is the feminist topic.

This is a good book to start with if you don't understand the points people are making here: The Beauty Myth

Well tell the young girls then!

All the young girls I know are fully aware that pics are tinkered with. What is unattainable beauty and why does it matter? You must think that she is beautiful and you find it unattainable. She looks good at the start and at then end, different of course, and how she got to the end is obvious. Who is judging woment by that standard? Not me or anyone I know. Who said Dove or anyone else set the standard by which we are all measured?

I think you need to give women a little more credit, we are not all divs sitting around worry we are not the same as the women in the advert.

In my day to day life I see women a lot prettier than the end product of the ad tbh.

Don't get what you mean? Does not make me feel like I am 'falling short of beauty'? Everyone knows ads are retouched to high heaven. There is not one level to get too that we should all strive too or else. I realy don't get what your FFS is supposed to mean?