'Man-hating feminism'

It is a popular misconception of feminism though, probably a myth perpetrated and augmented by sensationalist reporting (by men, I imagine). But it's also very pervasive - I've got a couple of female students who consistently come out with extremely pro-feminist statements, but then when we talk about feminism their reaction is very "oh no, it's not for me - I actually like men." We're talking about highly educated, proficient-in-3 languages, assertive women here, yet they've still somehow appropriated this misconception about feminism.

IME the people who complain about manhating feminists are the same people as the ones who think Andrea Dworkin said all men were rapists.

Uppity is a bloody great word isn't it? It just reeks of women who don't know their place type sexism.

Although I'm not often convinced by the notion of reclaiming words, I do think uppity has been successfully 'ironised' and is used with fantastic irony and don'tfuckwithmeism by feminists.

I haven't come across this either. Definitely not a 'branch'.

tbh if someone is using the word 'strident' about feminists I wonder where they are coming from. It is one of those words that people insist isn't sexist because you could use it about men. It's just that somehow people very rarely do, it is mostly reserved for uppity women

It's not what I would call feminism, but then perhaps I am confusing myself with a form of humanism and I am not feminist at all.

I believe that 'feminist' is something that self-defines.

I have read things written by people who claim to be feminists who appear to feel that men are the enemy. Therefore they are man-hating feminists.

It's not a branch of feminism then, is it?

misandry = advert with man who is too thick to know how to do the cleaning.

So his wife gets to do it all, all by herself!!!

Those female dominated misandrist advertising bastards, eh. Burn em.

"Combine a good dose of mysandry with a deep rooted sense of female superiority and there you have it. "

I like this phrase. My dad for eg despite thinking of himself as a modern and forward thinking chap will accuse women of having a sense of superiority if they do wild stuff like disagreeing with him MY GOD SHE@S UPPITY!

I have never met a woman who hates "men" as a generic group

Some individual men, yes, also some individual women

Where have you seen it quirrelquarrel? Maybe we move in different circles but on here and at BrumFems, I have never met women who hate men as a group.

Are there any websites that these man-haters use? It would be interesting to see that, and see how they compare to the websites for men who hate women (of which there are squillions!)

I know some women who are scared of men, and so don't like them.

That's different though I think.

How strange. I don't think I know any women who hate men as a group.

Combine a good dose of mysandry with a deep rooted sense of female superiority and there you have it.
Lucky you if you really haven't seen it.

What is this 'branch' of feminism? I haven't seen it.

I detest this 'branch' of feminism. And it is a branch and it should be stamped out. What are people going to think- that we're struggling against something so inherent we're constantly using up energy fighting them rather than nameless, genderless sexism, so there's no point in even trying? I am well aware that it's only a very small branch, but my gosh, it has enough hate for the rest.

The two most strident feminists I know are full of mysandric vitriol. Whenever they say something perceptive and sensible, they will invariably follow it up with something vituperative about the men they've known, or men in general, or "they are the cause of all this...oh for a man-free world!" etc.

I'll have a look at the Times today.

I know the Times is behind a pay wall now, so can't be linked. But can you give a flavour of what she is saying?