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Q for feminists: was your mother a Feminist? or not at all?

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amberleaf · 08/05/2011 11:26

Hello, ive lurked on this board but never posted so please be gentle with me Smile

I was raised by a feminist mum during the 70s/80s so i had a lot of feminist ideals drummed into me [i hope the term 'drummed' doesnt sound negative, i cant think of another way to describe it, I dont see how i was raised as a negative thing]

I feel that this did influence me a lot particularly in my attitudes towards relationships and marriage [ive never married and still wouldnt want to] also my self image.

Im not sure that i would call myself Feminist now? I definitely grew up thinking and feeling that as a woman i was discriminated against but also empowered enough that i wouldnt be hindered by sexism and would always challenge it.

Some of what i was taught by my mother on reflection seemed like 'man hating' and generalisations and i have questioned it lots over the years, particularly when i gave birth to the first of my 3 sons.

Im still interested in feminist perspectives and reading this board has been interesting, particularly in the current issues as the media/internet etc has IMO opened up new avenues for the deliverance and influence of sexism.

So im interested to hear from feminists who were raised in a feminist household, have you 'stuck' with it?

I think i have gone through phases of rejecting/maybe questioning some of what i was taught by my mother, possibly due to normal rebellion against parental influence im not sure?

Ok im aware that im now rambling a bit! Im just not sure on how i feel about it all.

Thanks for reading and i look forward to engaging with anyone interested in the topic of 'being raised by a feminist and how it has influenced you'

Amberleaf.

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amberleaf · 08/05/2011 13:42

Thanks for the replys everyone.

she was an '80s as-good-as-a-man work-late-ignore-children feminist, so that kind-of sent me off in the other (don't work, overinvest in motherhood) direction for a while. I can definitely relate to some of that PrinceHumperdink particularly the 'contrarian' bit.

Maybeitsbecause Yes my mum too is definitely less active now and since the early/mid 90s i think.

She def not as radical as she was which has also made me question what she taught me.

thefinerthingsinlife Thats nice that you're getting your daughter involved, I dont have any daughters i have 3 sons but i feel i have to pass on stuff to them too, i have found it conflicting in some ways based on what i was taught as i said previously i feel some of what my mum taught me was anti man and i dont want to tell my sons they are crap! i have got annoyed at stuff like the 'boys are stupid...throw rocks at them' merchandise in shops.

Ive bought 'gender specific' [supposedly for girls] toys and costumes for my sons as and when they've expressed an interest ie kitchens, dolls, toy pushchairs etc and i try to avoid gender stereotypes in my parenting.

The 'all men are potential rapists' thing has provoked a lot of thought since having a son, I hope i have taught my sons enough about respect for humans in general but this has come into my mind more as my eldest goes through puberty and the issue of potential sexual relationships and mutual consent arises.

Im glad that my upbringing encouraged me to challenge prejudice of all forms but i suppose i struggle a little with what i percieve as my mums turnaround over the years on some of her principles. [she ended up remarrying a man who although nice is somewhat 'old fashioned' in his ideals]

My brother said something to me a little while ago when we were discussing the breakdown of my relationship with my DSs father, he said that our mums stance that men are 'bad/cheaters/opressive' and must be resisted led me to expect that from men and that it affected my choices in who i had a relationship with and what my subsequent expectations were. I know i have issues with trusting men and also with my expectations of them so maybe he has a point?

Sorry if this is all a bit garbled! Its good to be able to discuss this stuff with people not personally involved, ive never discussed how i feel with my mum firstly because im not too sure exactly how i feel and because i dont want to seem as though im telling her she did it wrong!

Thanks for reading!

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Reality · 08/05/2011 13:08

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WillieWaggledagger · 08/05/2011 13:08

i think she must be. the second sex and the female eunuch are on the bookshelves. she has certainly noticed and been angry about inequality, especially during her professional training in the late seventies.

I notice though that things were pretty unequal at home. despite working almost full time she did everything or at least made sure everything was done iyswim. dad would do anything if asked but the planning and responsibility was left to her - and then to me if she was out, as the next available female (i only have brothers). mum would get cross about it from time to time and I regret not having been more vocal about it myself. I ended up doing lots to avoid mum getting upset, perpetuating the problem really

while I love my family dearly this does make me so angry, especially when I go to theirs for christmas and it's always the women clearing up while the men disappear

mookle · 08/05/2011 13:04

My mother was a feminist but thinks we all "have it easy" now compared to her day and thinks I should feel lucky to work/have kids and do all the cleaning, household management, child centred stuff as in her day she was seen as weird for wanting to work. She was also of the be like the men style, ignore the children feminist and now as an adult I sometimes woinder why she actually bothered to have us. I am still a feminist though but I believe in different things IYSWIM

queenofthecapitalwasteland · 08/05/2011 13:00

My mum was slightly feminist, when she remembered, she would always point out daft stuff my nan would say as an example of what not to do ("it doesn't hurt to make yourself look weak to get the boys to help you" or "you need to wear a bit of make up or the men won't notice you") but on the whole she wasn't that involved. She did try to encourage me to be whoever I wanted and I didn't have to rely on men, but I feel most of my attitude was self taught, mainly through this website Grin

dittany · 08/05/2011 12:56

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Hassled · 08/05/2011 12:50

My mother was in the band of late 60s/early 70s feminists. My father was much more traditional - we had an expat life, moving around the world, and wherever we were (including a small town in Zambia) my mother worked (she was a teacher), somewhat to my father's annoyance. Financial independence was something she felt very strongly about. She died when I was a teenager.

And me - well I worked through 3 DCs and then threw in the towel with DC4, and am now mostly a SAHM - bits and bobs of PT work sometimes. I don't think my mother would have judged me for it, but where she influenced me was the residual guilt I have now; I don't have that financial independence she strived for, and part of me feels I'm letting the side down.

msbuggywinkle · 08/05/2011 12:43

My Mum is the opposite of feminist. She bounces from one disastrous relationship to the next as she can't be without a man, insists on competing for male attention with every other woman in the room and used to usher me and my sister into parties with an injunction to 'sparkle'.

When my Mum visits, she usually brings me articles on hair and make up, has bought razors for me and has asked me how I expect to 'keep' my DP if I won't shave my legs or wear make up. She is baffled when I reply that I wouldn't want him if the only reason he was with me was the lack of hair on my body. She has made 'bucket' jokes as I had my DDs vaginally. She has been on a diet since she was 19 and put me on a diet at 12. She nags me about not using anti-aging creams.

She was horrified when she found out that DP had caught both our DDs as 'how could he ever want sex again after seeing that?!?'

She has been very instrumental in me becoming a feminist, no way do I want to be passing on all of that to the DDs!

PrinceHumperdink · 08/05/2011 12:38

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Maybeitsbecause · 08/05/2011 12:16

Yes. My mum was an original late 60s/70s 'women's libber'. She went on all the demos and was very active in the pro-choice movement in the 60s.

She hasn't been politically active since the mid 80s - she is now very active in the Labour party/Fabian society, rather than the women's movement - but she is still a very vocal feminist. She is the main (only?) person I can discuss these things with in any detail in RL Sad.

thefinerthingsinlife · 08/05/2011 12:10

I would go as far to say my mother is anti-feminism. She disagrees with nearly everything I stand for. However this had made me more determined to be a feminist.

On the other hand I have a DD and she comes to protests and marches with me, we read feminist books aim at children together and I like to think I'm teaching her about confidence and aiming high (at the moment she wants to be a surgeon, I'm sure this wil change though Grin). To be honest I'd be gutted if she wasn't a feminist when she grows up.