Eminem song / sexualy inaapropriate lyrics you didn't notice the first time

How am I trying to change the subject?
I simply gave my opinion just as you did.

I copy and pasted it from a website. I don't think leaving that bit out (and some other stuff too i think) is important, it's not as if he goes on to plug a women's refuge charity! It's more of the same and the part I quoted illustrated it fine. Why are you trying to pick holes in my argument or change the subject though?

If you'd like to discuss films and trailers than I'd be happy to rant discuss that too, on a different thread so it wouldn't be off topic.

I didn't say it made it okay, I just found it funny how you posted his whole song including sound effects but decided to miss the last line out.

And I was in an abusive relationship with someone who had beaten 7 shades of shit out of me on a few occasions, it's not as if I just don't understand or care what alot of these lyrics are pointed towards.

And thank you for twisting my words
"And don't tell us we shouldn't be getting upset by this when violent stuff is on TV. It's like saying that this isn't bad enough for us to discuss which is a weird thing to say."

I never even implied I didn't think it was bad enough to discuss! I just meant that you always see people complaining about singers and rappers but very rarely about movies or trailers for movies. People just want someone to blame.

MsRisotto Btw, at the end of that song he says "I'm only playing ladies, you know i love ya."

Well that makes it all ok then!

You know that abusive men often say the same thing after beating seven shades of shit out of their wives or girlfriends? Doesn't take it away though.

And did you read the article linked above? his more recent work doesn't sound much lighter:

Fe Fi Fo Fum
I think I smell the scent of a placenta
I enter central park, it's dark, it's winter in December
I see my target with my car, and park and approach her tender
Young girl by the name of Brenda and I pretend to befriend her
Sit down beside her like a spider, hi there girl you mighta
Heard of me before, see whore you're the kinda girl that I'da
Assault and rape and figure why not try to make your pussy wider
Fuck you with an umbrella then open it up while that shits inside ya

And don't tell us we shouldn't be getting upset by this when violent stuff is on TV. It's like saying that this isn't bad enough for us to discuss which is a weird thing to say.

MsRisotto Btw, at the end of that song he says "I'm only playing ladies, you know i love ya."

Also that song was off the Marshall Mathers LP, which was his second album and it was released more than 10 years ago. It was very dark.

Another song off that album is "Criminal" in which the first lyrics are this:

A lot of people ask me.. stupid fucking questions
A lot of people think that.. what I say on records
or what I talk about on a record, that I actually do in real life
or that I believe in it
Or if I say that, I wanna kill somebody, that..
I'm actually gonna do it
or that I believe in it
Well, shit.. if you believe that
then I'll kill you
You know why?
Cause I'm a....

Since that album Eminem has become much more mainstream and as has already been said, tongue in cheek.

I can't understand why people go so crazy over music because singers or rap artists are talking about murder in their songs when very graphic trailers for movies are on tv.

I got my sister to buy the Marshall Mathers LP (one of his albums for those who thought 50 cent was also one )for me when I was 14 or 15 as my mum wouldn't have let me with the explicit content sticker on the front. I have many of his albums. The lyrics kind of washed over me at the time which is SO fucking disturbing I can't quite believe it. The thing is, the tunes are catchy and somehow acceptable to be played on the radio and I guess this is a paternalistic culture so i'm not surprised he is popular the way he is/was.

You did mention that other 'artists' are just as bad if not worse which is true, but this is a thread about Eminem so I talked about him, also was surprised at your tongue in cheek comment and other defending stuff you said.

However, if the lyrics are worse on other rap records why on earth do you listen to them? Genuine question btw. I can't imagine listening to and enjoying music that contains so much hatred. I also can't imagine lyrics much worse than the Eminem song msrisotto quoted so I dread to think what other rappers are saying.

Sorry - I thought 50 cent was an album by Eminem - definitely not up on my rap!!

ignore other offending artists in the rap field that are even worse fly under the radar thats my point.
But that's a point you haven't mentioned until now - and it is a good point that I definitely agree with you on. In fact it isn't just the rap field where it is a problem.

You never made any response to the lyrics msrisotto wrote other than "He does talk about killing his dad in numerous songs and his stepfather who molested /raped him".

All your posts are making excuses for him. Read them again. "tongue-in-cheek"; suggesting his songs are getting better (which they may be for all I know) as some way of explaining he "had" to get all his vitriol out to be "nice" again. Trying to turn it around to suggest that if a woman wrote a song like that about a man we would accept it. Excusing him all the time.

Sue I think you are desensitised. Speaking as someone who very rarely listens to Eminem (although like IC I do like Lose Yourself) those lyrics msrisotto wrote down are truly shocking and disgusting and I feel you are trying to excuse them by saying he says similar things about his father/stepfather - as if that makes it alright.

I don't think it is ever alright to speak about women like that. I am sorry that he has obviously had great childhood trauma but tbh that isn't a good enough excuse.

This is an excellent article on the subject.

I agree that 50 Cent is even worse. And that Eminem does have a go at his father and step-father in some songs. But that doesn't excuse lyrics like those quoted above.

I like "Lose Yourself" though.

Trigger warning - don't read lyrics below if easily disturbed.

They said I can't rap about being broke no more
They ain't say I can't rap about coke no more
(AH!) Slut, you think I won't choke no whore
'til the vocal cords don't work in her throat no more?!
(AH!) These motherfuckers are thinking I'm playing
Thinking I'm saying the shit cause I'm thinking it just to be saying it
(AH!) Put your hands down bitch, I ain't gonna shoot you
I'ma pull +YOU+ to this bullet, and put it through you
(AH!) Shut up slut, you're causing too much chaos
Just bend over and take it like a slut, OK Ma?
"Oh, now he's raping his own mother, abusing a whore,
snorting coke, and we gave him the Rolling Stone cover?"
You god damn right BITCH, and now it's too late
I'm triple platinum and tragedies happen in two states
I invented violence, you vile venomous volatile bitches
vain Vicadin, vrinnn Vrinnn, VRINNN! [chainsaw revs up]
Texas Chainsaw, left his brains all
dangling from his neck, while his head barely hangs on
Blood, guts, guns, cuts

Knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts

[Chorus: Eminem]

Bitch I'ma kill you! You don't wanna fuck with me
Girls neither - you ain't nothing but a slut to me
Bitch I'ma kill you! You ain't got the balls to beef
We ain't gonna never stop beefing I don't squash the beef
You better kill me! I'ma be another rapper dead
for popping off at the mouth with shit I shouldn't said
But when they kill me - I'm bringing the world with me
Bitches too! You ain't nothing but a girl to me
.. I said you don't, wanna fuck with Shady (cause why?)
Cause Shady, will fucking kill you (ah-ha ha)
I said you don't, wanna fuck with Shady (why?)
Cause Shady, will fucking kill you..

[Eminem]
Bitch I'ma kill you! Like a murder weapon, I'ma conceal you
in a closet with mildew, sheets, pillows and film you
Buck with me, I been through hell, shut the hell up!
I'm trying to develop these pictures of the Devil to sell 'em
I ain't "acid rap," but I rap on acid
Got a new blow-up doll and just had a strap-on added
WHOOPS! Is that a subliminal hint? NO!
Just criminal intent to sodomize women again
Eminem offend? NO! Eminem insult
And if you ever give in to him, you give him an impulse
to do it again, THEN, if he does it again
you'll probably end up jumping out of something up on the 10th
(Ah!) Bitch I'ma kill you, I ain't done this ain't the chorus
I ain't even drug you in the woods yet to paint the forest
A bloodstain is orange after you wash it three or four times
in a tub but that's normal ain't it Norman?
Serial killer hiding murder material
in a cereal box on top of your stereo
Here we go again, we're out of our medicine
out of our minds, and we want in yours, let us in

etc etc

His recent stuff isn't much better. Also, it wouldn't make it better even if his lyrics were 'only' directed towards specific women. His dad wasn't around his whole life and he doesn't talk about raping or murdering him.

Ruthchan I have the same problem too, I love pop music but can't have Belgian stations on any more due to the swearing. My children are a bit older then yours. My dd1 is 7 knows that I don't like Rihanna or Lady Gaga and that it's not for children.